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Old 04-19-2009, 07:20 AM   #1
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Is Anti-Israeli = Anti-Semite ?

US boycotts racism conference

The United States has said it will not attend an United Nations conference on racism because the text of the draft final statement contains language it is "unable to support", the state department says.

Negotiators had been trying to find common ground before the meeting in Geneva, but the US said there were still concerns it would limit free speech and single out Israel for criticism.

"Unfortunately, it now seems certain these remaining concerns will not be addressed in the document to be adopted by the conference next week," Robert Wood, US state department spokesman, said in a statement issued late on Saturday.

"Therefore, with regret, the United States will not join the review conference.''

Washington's decision followed intense lobbying by Israeli and Jewish groups,

The American Israel Public Affairs Committee said the decision "underscores America's unstinting commitment to combatting intolerance and racism in all its forms and in all settings".

The United States and Israel walked out of the World Conference on Racism in Durban, South Africa in 2001 after a row with some Muslim states about Israel's treatment of the Palestinians and anti-Semitism.

The five-day Geneva conference, which begins on Monday, has been called to assess international progress in fighting racism and xenophobia since the Durban meeting.

'Deeply dismayed'

Washington's decision is likely to anger human rights advocates and some in the African-American community who had hoped that President Barack Obama, the nation's first black president, would send an official delegation.

"This decision is inconsistent with the administration's policy of engaging with those we agree with and those we disagree with"

Barbara Lee,
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Barbara Lee, the Republican chair of the congressional black caucus, said the group was "deeply dismayed".

"This decision is inconsistent with the administration's policy of engaging with those we agree with and those we disagree with," she said.

"By boycotting Durban, the US is making it more difficult for it to play a leadership role on UN Human Rights Council as it states it plans to do. This is a missed opportunity, plain and simple."

Some revisions had been made to the original text in order to find consensus, including the removal of passages specifically criticising Israel and others dealing with the defamation of religion.

But Wood said that not enough concessions had been made.

"[It] singles out one particular conflict and prejudges key issues that can only be resolved in negotiations between the Israelis and Palestinians," he said.

The US pulled out of planning talks for the Geneva meeting on February 27, complaining that changes must be made.

'Offensive views'

Australia and Canada have also chosen not to attend.

"Regrettably, we cannot be confident that the review conference will not again be used as a platform to air offensive views, including anti-Semitic views," Stephen Smith, Australia's foreign minister, said.

After the draft text was finalised on Saturday, European diplomats said they were considering whether to participate, the French foreign ministry said.

Foreign ministers from Britain, the Czech Republic, France, Germany and the Netherlands had a joint telephone discussion about whether to withdraw, and would talk again on Sunday, a French diplomat said.

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Old 04-19-2009, 11:45 AM   #2
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Old 06-01-2009, 06:02 PM   #3
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Old 06-02-2009, 04:55 AM   #4
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The obvious answer to your questions is: Of course not! Not all Israelis are Semitic and most Semitic people in the world are neither Israeli nor Jewish. They are Arabs! But the Jews know how ignorant most Americans are and have propagated the myth that any criticism of them is Antisemitism and that would be racism. Criticism of them is criticism of them not of their race, lineage or religion. They deliberately call themselves "Jews" even though a large number of them are atheist! That's because they want to bind their religion with their lineage, so that criticism of them may be regarded as religious intolerance AND racism. Clever, eh?
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Old 06-02-2009, 06:23 AM   #5
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The obvious answer to your questions is: Of course not! Not all Israelis are Semitic and most Semitic people in the world are neither Israeli nor Jewish. They are Arabs! But the Jews know how ignorant most Americans are and have propagated the myth that any criticism of them is Antisemitism and that would be racism. Criticism of them is criticism of them not of their race, lineage or religion. They deliberately call themselves "Jews" even though a large number of them are atheist! That's because they want to bind their religion with their lineage, so that criticism of them may be regarded as religious intolerance AND racism. Clever, eh?


this is so true.

ask any American, who were killed in the Hitler's Holocaust, they will say Jews. But the fact is they only amounted to around third of the people killed.

17 million killed of which 6 million are Jews.

funny thing is Wikipedia on Hitler mentioned he was anti-semite and killed the Jews. No mention of the other 11 million who were not white complexion.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler

of course Wikipedia is not to reliable but I am used to it for looking up tech links.

please excuse me if I put inaccurate numbers, I really don't care to look this up in detail. but you get my point in sha Allah.


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Old 06-09-2009, 01:22 PM   #6
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This is not from wikipedia - my highlights are in red and blue.

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"Half of These Holocaust Victims Were Non-Jewish.

On August 22, 1939, a few days before the official start of World War II, Hitler authorized his commanders, with these infamous words, to kill "without pity or mercy, all men, women, and children of Polish descent or language. Only in this way can we obtain the living space [lebensraum] we need". "

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"RACIALLY TARGETED GROUPS

While Nazi ideology targeted Jews as the primary enemy of Germany, the Nazis also targeted Roma (Gypsies) on racial grounds. The 1935 Nuremberg Laws (which defined Jews by blood) were later applied to Roma. Drawing on traditional prejudices in German society, the Nazis termed Roma as prone by race to be "work-shy" and "asocial" with an inherited inclination to engage in petty crime. Among the first killed in the mobile gas vans at the Chelmno killing center in German-occupied Poland in early 1942 were Roma deported from the Greater German Reich to the Lodz ghetto. SS and police authorities deported more than 20,000 Roma to the Auschwitz-Birkenau camp, where the camp authorities killed almost all of them in the gas chambers.

In the German-occupied parts of the Soviet Union, German military and SS-police officials shot tens of thousands of local Roma, often on trumped-up justification that the Roma were engaged in espionage for the Soviet authorities. Two of Nazi Germany's Axis partners also engaged in the mass murder of Roma. The authorities of the so-called Independent State of Croatia killed approximately 26,000 Roma, many of them at the Jasenovac concentration camp complex. In Romania, the government of General Ion Antonescu killed between 13,000 and 36,000 Roma, both in Romania proper and in Transnistria.




The Nazis viewed Poles and the Slavic and so-called Asiatic peoples of the Soviet Union as racially inferior, and slated them for subjugation and forced labor. They implemented a policy of physical annihilation of the political, intellectual, and cultural elites of Poland and the Soviet Union. German occupation authorities murdered tens of thousands of members of the Polish elite classes (including intellectuals and Catholic priests) in an operation known as Ausserordentliche Befriedungsaktion (AB-Extraordinary Pacification Action). The Commissar Order, issued to German military commanders on June 6, 1941, called for shooting captured political commissars serving in the Red Army. German SS and police units received instructions to kill high-ranking and mid-level officials of the Soviet state and the Soviet Communist Party.




During the autumn and winter of 1941-1942, German military authorities and the German Security Police collaborated on a racist policy of mass murder of Soviet prisoners of war: Jews, persons with “Asiatic features,” and top political and military leaders were selected out and shot. Around three million others were held in makeshift camps without proper shelter, food, or medicine with the deliberate intent that they die. Approximately two million Soviet soldiers died as a result of this criminal neglect in the winter of 1941-1942. Even after the Germans decided to permit the remaining Soviet soldiers to survive so that their labor could be exploited, Soviet soldiers were generally incarcerated under harsher conditions -- often in concentration camps -- than any other group of prisoners of war.

Backed by willing supporters in the medical, healthcare, and social service professional communities, the Nazis viewed institutionalized people with disabilities perceived as congenital to be a threat to the gene pool of the so-called German master race. The Nazi leadership was determined to use the opportunity of war to physically annihilate people with disabilities living in institutions but perceived as unable to work.

Legislation passed during the 1930s required the identification of persons perceived as “useless eaters” in institutions throughout Germany. After this legislation, officials of Hitler's private chancellery -- working with officials of the German Ministry of Health and the German Criminal Police -- established plans and procedures for three killing operations. These operations fell under the general umbrella term “Euthanasia.” All three were implemented during the war:

1) some 5,000 institutionalized small children with disabilities were murdered in institutions throughout Germany and Austria

2) in “Operation T-4” (named for the address of the Führer Chancellery office in Berlin at Tiergartenstraße 4), some 70,000 institutionalized adults were murdered in six killing centers and thousands of prisoners no longer able to work were killed in the concentration camps

3) approximately 110,000 other institutionalized adults with disabilities were murdered at institutions throughout Greater Germany. The overwhelming majority of T-4 victims were murdered in gas chambers; the other victims were killed by starvation, deliberately untreated disease, poisoning, and lethal injection.

OTHER PERSECUTED GROUPS

In addition to racially targeted victims, the Germans persecuted, incarcerated in concentration camps, and killed real and perceived political opponents of the Nazi regime inside Germany. This included both Catholic and Lutheran clergy as well as persons engaged in real and perceived activities of resistance movements in German-occupied Europe. Some of the so-called anti-partisan operations, particularly in the occupied Soviet Union, were in effect efforts to depopulate the Soviet countryside. The Germans massacred hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions, of Soviet civilians in their villages. The vast majority of these victims had little or no connection to partisan resistance.

The Nazi regime also targeted Jehovah's Witnesses who refused to swear an oath to the regime or perform military service. Approximately 3,000 Jehovah's Witnesses were incarcerated in concentration camps. Nearly a third of them died there. Another 250 were shot after being convicted by a military tribunal. The Nazi regime also persecuted male homosexuals, whose sexual behavior was considered an obstacle to the preservation of the German nation and an element of corruption and immorality for German society. Tens of thousands of homosexuals were indicted for alleged homosexual acts or behavior: some of those who could not be convicted, or who were picked up by the Gestapo (German secret state police) after serving their sentences, were imprisoned in concentration camps. Hundreds, possibly thousands died in the camps.

Finally, German Criminal Police officials arrested and incarcerated in concentration camps tens of thousands of so-called asocials as well as real or perceived repeat criminal offenders, even though they had not committed a new crime or violation. Thousands of these so-called asocial and “criminal” prisoners were murdered in the camps."

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Where is the support for all these other people who were deliberately targeted and murdered during the holocaust?
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Old 06-09-2009, 03:53 PM   #7
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A great many religious Jews are against the state of Isreal too.

As for remembering the others killed, well perhaps the communities remember there own. I know of at least one website that comemerates the gays killed and of course we have taken up using the pink triangle symbol as a posative thing rather than the nengative use that hilter had.

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