O Somalia, Land of Islam!

[abdul Qadir]

:salam2:

O Somalia, Land of Islam!
Publication time: 3 March 2007, 16:00

With the US now using proxies in an effort to control the rich resources of Somalia, for fear of another Black Hawn down that sent them packing, our brothers must remember the glorious ancestry and stand united to establish Allah's rule and religion in its entirety as this poem in your honor inspires.

Somalia Land of Islam
People of strong Iman
Somalia graveyard of the crusaders
Who never learn from their past mistakes

They came in 93
To bring peace, justice and democracy
And were dispatched in pieces
After they were exposed for their hypocrisy
Uranium and other resources was the motive

Now they are using proxies
Ethiopians and So called Somali's
Puppets and traitors
Slaves once more
Like before
This time paid
To raid their own kind
No dignity or honor

US is clever
Bogged down in Iraq and Afghanistan
No more land invasions
Maybe they learnt their lesson
Not to mess with Muslims

Divide and conquer
Weaken and annihilate
Back to their old ways
Old tactics renewed
While the Muslims continue to
Fight with small arms
Hitting and running
And blowing up using their own bodies

US aware
Full of fear
Refusing to land troops
Coz they remember Black Hawk down

Mujahideen say
Crusaders welcome
To the land of glory and Islam
People full of dignity and Taqwa
Coz
Islam reached here before Medina

Ready to die in Jihad
Than submit and be humiliated
Motivated and ready

My dear Somali brothers
Forget the divisions of tribalism
Tool of jahaliyah and shaytan
West's biggest weapon
More powerful than a nuclear bomb
More Somalis died
And many widows and orphans cried
Coz of tribalism

Leave this evil
And unite as brothers
Inter-marry and kill it for good
Unite and repel the occupation
Together
Otherwise u will be enslaved forever

Instead of walking
U will be kneeling
And bowing
To the US and its allies

Horn of Africa
Land of Islam
Able to inspire the Ummah
And put fear in the hearts of the enemy

Your ancestors were Mujihideen
Proud and noble
Live up to their glories
Against invaders like the Italians
Don't collaborate or condemn your brothers
Islam brought order
While kufr and tribalism brings disorder

You've seen it in the past
Don't make the same mistake twice
May Allah help u and give u the victory
Establish Islamic rule in state and society.
Ameen.



By Showkat Ali

[Libinette]

:salam2:
What a beautiful and..... i'm speechless mashallah it's very well said mashallah

especially this bit:
My dear Somali brothers
Forget the divisions of tribalism
Tool of jahaliyah and shaytan
West's biggest weapon
More powerful than a nuclear bomb
More Somalis died
And many widows and orphans cried
Coz of tribalism

This is soo true and unfortunate.
Anyways Jazakallah for sharing

Sister L.
:wasalam:

[mahdi]

salam brother, it was nice thing to say that,
i ma somali and saw what happened to my country , it's not the people who are fighting cause of tribes, it's the warlords who run to their tribes and start attacking other tribes , i think somali's have to stand together and refuse the rule of the war lords, they are paid by the US to bring disorder in the country,

i pray to allah that we have estability in the region and peace,

214. Or think ye that ye will enter paradise while yet there hath not come unto you the like of (that which came to) those who passed away before you ? Affliction and adversity befell them, they were shaken as with earthquake, till the messenger (of Allah) and those who believed along with him said: When cometh Allah's help ? Now surely Allah's help is ni

[suumaya]

Thank you brother abdul qadir.
It's sad and beautiful as well. i hope to see one day that all the muslim united and stand together... it's sad when we kill one another....

[Umzakariya]

Assalamu Alaikum,

Jazzakallu khair bro abdul Qadir for sharing...that was touching/beautiful poem!!!! I always make dua for all the muslims around the world for peace.

[saqlawi]

jazak allahu khair brother

a beautiful poem, and very true.

(And mahdi is right about warlords, similar to the so called "civil war" in Iraq, but with shiite Irani-backed militias)


:wasalam:

[abdul Qadir]

:salam2:
:jazaak: for your kind words ... the strugle agains the infidels and the puppet of the west will continue .... now there is aden hashi ayrow who americans claim that he trained in afghanistan and even took part in the war in lebanon against the jews .... anyone heard of him .... mashaAllah he is just 29 and brave .... i pray for victory to all the ummah .... vitory to the mujahideen

[Fardowsa]

"Somalia Land of Islam
People of strong Iman
Somalia graveyard of the crusaders
Who never learn from their past mistakes

They came in 93
To bring peace, justice and democracy
And were dispatched in pieces
After they were exposed for their hypocrisy
Uranium and other resources was the motive"


did you know that only 18 American soldiers died in Somalia vs about 1000+ Somalis. Tell me who won???? I could assure you it was not the Somalis. Anyways, I havent really got the chance to finish reading the rest of the poem cause this few paragraphs kinda ruined it for me. salaams

[Abdi Alfattah]

did you know that only 18 American soldiers died in Somalia vs about 1000+ Somalis. Tell me who won????

Asalaamu Caleykum sister.
have watched/seen what happend in the battle of Fallujah?

[young muslimaah]

:salam2:
brother abdulqadir this very beautiful indeed as sister libin said and also very true.
i pray to allah that one day we (muslims) stop killing eachother and start loving eachother and apreciating one another amiin ya rabil3alimiin :tti_sister: :tti_sister:


united we stand devided we fall.

:wasalam:

[Sulikha]

:salam2:

Thank you brother Abdul-Qadir. well said sister libin. I am somali my concern for my people is lack of knowledge. most of women:girl3: in somalia can't even read so are most of men living outside the big cities. I hope I am not offending anyone. to my knowledge i found out that in here Virginia and other states too most of the women over 55 can't read.

Knowledge is a # 1 key to our problemo. I hope one day somalian will see that knowledge is more important than tribe.

O Allah help our brothers and sisters. and Give us knowledge that we benefits from.:tti_sister:

[Sulikha]

:salam2:

Knowledge is a torch whose holder percieves things as they truely are and not as they appear. ....And say: MY Lord! increase me in knowledge.: (20;114)

The prophet (scw) said, " whom Allah does love he gives knowledge of religion and guides him into the straight path.

May Allah guides us to the straight path.:tti_sister:

[abdul Qadir]

"Somalia Land of Islam
People of strong Iman
Somalia graveyard of the crusaders
Who never learn from their past mistakes

They came in 93
To bring peace, justice and democracy
And were dispatched in pieces
After they were exposed for their hypocrisy
Uranium and other resources was the motive"


did you know that only 18 American soldiers died in Somalia vs about 1000+ Somalis. Tell me who won???? I could assure you it was not the Somalis. Anyways, I havent really got the chance to finish reading the rest of the poem cause this few paragraphs kinda ruined it for me. salaams

didnt unosom leave ???

[Fardowsa]

They left b/c of the fact that nothing was getting done, cause the Somalis that were left were not allowing them to really accomplish anything. So, please bro, just cause they left does not mean that Somalia won, it was not even a fight or anything, the troops went their to just assist, and to give food to the thousands that were starving....too bad they werent really allowed to get to them:(.

Anyways, stop making it seem as if the few hundred Somalis threw out the highly trained American/allied troops....cause clearly that was not the case. As I stated before, 18 versus 1000+ you do the math.

As-Salaam Alaykum

ps non-Muslim nations were the only ones that were there for the Somalis, where were the so called useless "Islamic nations"?

[Fardowsa]

Asalaamu Caleykum sister.
have watched/seen what happend in the battle of Fallujah?

What does this have to do with my reply?

For the record, No, I have not seen it. Salaam

[TheKnowledgeSeeker]

Forget about the die people but we get them out of our country unlike some other countries who can't and to that we won. But i do agree on this non-Muslim nations were the only ones that were there for the Somalis while the islamict nation didn't.

:tti_sister:

[Fardowsa]

They were only there to help, what part of that dont you understand? Therefore, by not letting them help you, does not really mean that the Somalis won. They left there because nothing was being accomplished, cause as I said before.....the Somalis were not letting them get supplies/food to the people that needed it. Please, read about what really happen in Somalia during that time, and then comment about it....that would be best for you. Salaams

[Abdul-Raheem]

They were only there to help, what part of that dont you understand? Therefore, by not letting them help you, does not really mean that the Somalis won. They left there because nothing was being accomplished, cause as I said before.....the Somalis were not letting them get supplies/food to the people that needed it. Please, read about what really happen in Somalia during that time, and then comment about it....that would be best for you. Salaams

:salam2:

You are seriously mistaken sister. Do you seriously think that sole purpose of the american invasion of Somalia was to distibute food? 18 american troops were killed during a military operation not a humanitarian one.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Mogadishu

wasalam

[American Muslim]

look...i am not america, but i am american. black hawk down was a great movie. but i gotta tell you, the fact that some rangers even made it back alive was nothing short of miraculous against those odds. this was not a great victory for somalia. i have to tell you , even iraq is not a military "defeat". Casualty rates for troops are very low. It is just that this is televised.
I am not saying that america is acting correctly. I pray that the ummah unites. We need a new caliph. Only as a single entitly will muslim countries control their own destinies. But who will lead? Saudi? Iran? Singapore? Not one group would cede power to another. Make du'a that Hazrat Eesa comes soon to unite the ummah.
People like to see america as the great shaitan. Do I need to explain that all countries act in their own self interest? Didn't Iraq invade Kuwait on thin pretenses? Didn't Turkey grind their own (muslim) minorities into the dirt?Does america act heavy handed around the world? Yes. But can you tell me brothers , in your heart of hearts, that a muslim country would not act the same if the roles were reversed? Or are you going to tell me stories of the caliphate from a 1000 years ago?
Cut us some slack. America is pigheaded. But they are not out to destroy anyone.

[Abdul-Raheem]

:salam2:

First of all, I don't think this was a 'victory' for Somalia. They managed to drive the US troops out of Somalia but that was it. Just another bloody phase in the history of Somalia. America has no regard for international law or boundaries. When Iraq invaded Kuwait, the international community was in uproar. Yet in their eyes, they have the freedom to invade any country at will, all in the name of Freedom. What freedom? Look at the situation in Iraq now....

They came to to liberate the people of Vietnam from Communism, Afghanistan and Iraq from Islamic extremists and cruel dictators. If this is what they call 'liberation' and 'freedom', the world would be better off without it it.

wasalam

[Fardowsa]

:salam2:

You are seriously mistaken sister. Do you seriously think that sole purpose of the american invasion of Somalia was to distibute food? 18 american troops were killed during a military operation not a humanitarian one.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Mogadishu

wasalam


Bro, I don't have to look at wikepedia or any other source for that matter, I know the reason why US and allied forces went into Somalia back in '93, and that was mainly for humanitarian aid....and that was it! They went in to distribute food to the starving ppl that were left in Mogadishu, and some groups led by some world lord (I forget his name) were not allowing the food to get thru to the people, so the foreign troops had to take action to get rid of those specific individuals. Salaams

[maymun]

"Somalia Land of Islam
People of strong Iman
Somalia graveyard of the crusaders
Who never learn from their past mistakes

They came in 93
To bring peace, justice and democracy
And were dispatched in pieces
After they were exposed for their hypocrisy
Uranium and other resources was the motive"


did you know that only 18 American soldiers died in Somalia vs about 1000+ Somalis. Tell me who won???? I could assure you it was not the Somalis. Anyways, I havent really got the chance to finish reading the rest of the poem cause this few paragraphs kinda ruined it for me. salaams

:salam2:
look sis Americans never tall truth if ten of their soldiers die they say two instead of ten
anyway may allah destroy the enimy of islam and unite all muslim nations under the kitaab of allah and sunnah:tti_sister: :tti_sister:
walaam

[maymun]

:salam2:
as we muslims we are blaming america or west, to be honest we need to blame our selfes :SMILY209:
whos is helping America to destroy our countries
the answer is muslim leeders coz every is looking their interest
where are the scolers or sheeks of islam most of them they live underground jailed muslim countries waiting shahada or victory <nasr> and they are the real mujaahedin
can any sheekh stand in any muslim land to call the poeple to unite they can't they would be killed or destroyed for ever and trully they are the real mujaahiden
waalahy this is a test, we ask allah to make us steadfast in our faith
and whether we come from a strong tribe we are weak coz tommorow no one is ganna help us but only our good deeds
insha allah we need to change our selfes and our famlies, friends, to make better world in this life and here after
I ask allah lord of the world, Enternal guardian of the heavens and the earths to unite muslim ummah and guide us to the straight path and gether us in the garden of paradise :tti_sister: :tti_sister:

[aamed]

You know, let me begin by saying that the world has become used to what is called “targeted assassinations” -- in Gaza by Israel, in Afghanistan by NATO, and in Iraq, as well. But let us be clear that all such attacks are illegal under international law. No one has been identified and tried and sentenced. Invariably, lots of innocent people die in such attacks, sometimes scores, as happened recently in Pakistan. So these are illegal attacks. But, in addition, this has escalated this war, begun basically by Ethiopia when they invaded Somalia. And it has opened -- and this is what is so incredulous to me, I find, incredulous that the US has opened another front in the Muslim world. I do not understand what the intention is.

If US was sincere and honest about bringing peace and stability to Somalia then US should have worked with the Islamic Courts Union, which had lots of support and controlled virtually all of southern Somalia. The international community should have engaged, the US -- should have engaged with them to ensure that there was no terror coming out of Somalia. This is completely reckless

But it is also inevitable, because the US, using the issue of terror as the goal to defeat terror, wants to place in Somalia -- and it is succeeding so far -- a client regime, which will go along with what it wishes to do, as happened in Iraq. You know, there’s a strategic region, and they want a client regime in there. And the new regime immediately came out in support of the US attacks, even though it acknowledged that lots of people had been killed who are not terrorists.

Somalia sits at the tip of what is called the Horn of Africa. This is one of the most strategic regions in the world, after the Middle East, because through the Red Sea, you have daily, you know, scores of oil tankers and warships passing back and forth, because of the wars in the Middle East. It also is newly oil-rich. There are extensive reports, terrible reports, that Somalia now also has oil, just like most other countries in the region have.

The US has a huge military base in Djibouti, which is neighboring Somalia. And, in fact, so important is Africa to the US now, especially this region of Africa, which also contains, by the way, Sudan -- you know, there was a big long civil war, brutal civil war, in southern Sudan. There’s another brutal civil war in Darfur in Sudan. Ethiopia itself is a dictatorship. It lost the election last year, but by true force continued to assume power, Meles Zenawi, with the help of the US. The US has very close ties; it’s training the military in Ethiopia. So the US in now going to have a new army command, like CENTCOM, for Africa. There’s never been a US command specifically for Africa, but there’s going to be one now, and it is going to be in the Horn of Africa.

This is a very turbulent region. And the best way to look at this region is to imagine for a second that this very narrow Red Sea doesn’t exist, and then you see that Ethiopia, Somalia, Eritrea, all these countries are just a few miles from Saudi Arabia and Yemen and Iraq. And so, this region is very much a part of the Middle East, has centuries of trade, and also with India and the countries over there. It's a crossroads. And the US wants to make sure it dominates it fully, and it wanted a client regime in Somalia. And that's what it has managed to do, although I’m sure it's going to be temporary. There is going to be a lot of fighting against this regime.

I mean, the issue here, I think, is this, that anything that has the word “Islam” in it is seen to be an enemy. That seems to be justification enough for them. “Oh, they’re going after the Islamists.” I mean, the reality is that these, what they call Islamists are just Muslims who are pretty traditional. Somalis should be allowed to live as they wish to. I mean, if we want to ban cinemas, that’s our right. If they don’t support it, then they going to start an invasion to say, “Oh, we don’t want such people in power there.” If the Somalis don’t want them in power, that is fine. Let the Somalis work it out for them. But this is madness.

It is in violation also of explicit UN resolutions that the UN itself supported and passed. For example, the new UN resolution that the UN wanted said no troops from neighboring countries should go into Somalia, in case there is a peacekeeping force from the region. And yet, Ethiopia invaded.


[muslim56]

here is one

When a enemy fights
don`t just wait there
beat them up back
if they want to
you knock down hard on the usa ones
they started it you know
there the evilest of all:astag:

[mubka]

:jazaak:

Thank you brother for your kind sharing ....

Jazaka-LLaahu-Kheyral Jazaa

[American Muslim]

:salam2:
look sis Americans never tall truth if ten of their soldiers die they say two instead of ten
anyway may allah destroy the enimy of islam and unite all muslim nations under the kitaab of allah and sunnah:tti_sister: :tti_sister:
walaam

wow...this is truly offensive. I understand that you are angry, and are looking at a nation of individuals as a single entity. Americans never tell the truth? This is the same as saying everyone in Saudi Arabia committs adultery.

Please brother, in your hatred of the American government, do not tar all Americans with the same brush.

Oh, and one more thing. This country has freedom of the press. The media would tear apart any administration that tried to lie like that. If you think the media is not brave enough, I have to tell you about our two party system. One side is always looking to diminish the other. So that kind of lie would not stand; the opposing party would make certain of it. If two wish to keep a secret, one of them must die. What you are proposing would require thousands of people maintaining this lie well over a decade.

I do second your du'a that the true enemies of Islam are destroyed and that the ummah is united under the kitaab of Allah (swt), and the sunnah.

[Libinette]

[QUOTE=American Muslim;57696]wow...this is truly offensive. I understand that you are angry, and are looking at a nation of individuals as a single entity. Americans never tell the truth? This is the same as saying everyone in Saudi Arabia committs adultery.
QUOTE]

I don't think the sister meant to offend American citizens in any way; but critise the flagrant hypocrisy of the American govern't & media.

Allahu ya'lam

:wasalam:
SisterL.

[American Muslim]

Sorry if I over reacted. Sometimes, I feel like a long tailed cat in a room full of rocking chairs while I am on this site. I know my country does many bad things, but Islam is the fastest growing religion here. There are many, many Muslims here.

America does not equal shaitan. It is a country with a varied population.

[Libinette]

:salam2:

I understand your situation!!
It's sad that actually lot of people, including muslims have these ideas that ALL americans are ignorant, racist, anti-muslim people, and i think that's totally wrong.
In every country, society, there are bad and good...... and we have to learn to open our minds a bit more i guess

:wasalam:

[Fardowsa]

:salam2:
look sis Americans never tall truth if ten of their soldiers die they say two instead of ten
anyway may allah destroy the enimy of islam and unite all muslim nations under the kitaab of allah and sunnah:tti_sister: :tti_sister:
walaam

Are you trying to say that the cassaulties were equal on both sides? I dont think so.

May, Allah accept your duah, and all of our insha allah, and may he unite the followers of the deen of al islam....amiin.

[American Muslim]

wow...the post that wouldn't die...

[Abdul-Raheem]

:salam2:

Come on people, it happened. There's no use arguing about it now. Anyway, we should be looking to the future now, not the bloody past.

wasalam

[TheKnowledgeSeeker]

[QUOTE=Abdul-Raheem;56152]:salam2:

"First of all, I don't think this was a 'victory' for Somalia. They managed to drive the US troops out of Somalia but that was it. Just another bloody phase in the history of Somalia."

Dude are you joking that was a ''victory'' for the Somalia. When you have some people come in your country and you are able to get them out unlike some countries it is/was a big time victory. Don't say it when you were there to see what they did! I am not saying cos it is my country but am saying because i believe if a weak country gets a another country out of their land that is/will always be 'Victory'. Mark my words it is!

P.S. Who are you to judge weater it was a victory or not, In the first place! Goes for all non-somaila people and those who are judging another countries victory!

wasalam :angryblue:

[Abdul-Raheem]

P.S. Who are you to judge weater it was a victory or not, In the first place! Goes for all non-somaila people and those who are judging another countries victory!

:salam2:

Hold up....who's to say I'm not Somali?
Secondly, I don't like hearing when people say such things. No one has an exclusive right to talk about any country, whether it be 'your' country, Iraq, Afghanistan or wherever. We are one ummah! No matter what our nationality.

wasalam

[TheKnowledgeSeeker]

Oops and i don't mean direct you brother sorry if offended. But I will be honest I judge you from your writing. I do agree no one has the right to talk about other country but you can talk about yours as much as you please.I am sorry again.

[Abdul-Raheem]

:salam2:

No offence taken Brother :SMILY335:

wasalam

[ibn azem]

salaam alaykum

Nihm is a sister, ya akhi 'Abdul-Raheem!

I hope we are all doing well insha'Allaah, :SMILY45::wavyarms:(ta, ta, ta).

wasalaam.

[Sulikha]

:salam2:

O Allah help our brothers and sisters in Somalia and all our sisters and brothers around the world.:tti_sister: :tti_sister: :tti_sister:

[mahdi]

what i don't understand is why the world doesn't see what is going on in somalia, where are the arab people the muslim people, i guess most of them are the bodyguards of bush, i thought musilms were like one body if one finger gets hurt the hole body feels the pain, but it's not happening because muslim countries are afraid of bush.
someone here said the americans don't lie, i am sorry to say this, but the media and the government all lie, now if u look at any news u will see them saying ,ehtiopia is fighting with a teerrorist group who are resisting peace, since when there terrorist in somalia or anyone who is a muslim and folows the quran is terror, the stereotype is what bush is using to destroy and kill innocent muslims.
the government lied when they said the leadres of the islamic courrts had links with al qaida. that was a big a lie , when they cuptured the leader they released him.

[TheKnowledgeSeeker]

I AM NOT BROTHER! Thank you ibn azem for correcting the brother.

wasalam

:tti_sister:

[Fardowsa]

[QUOTE=Abdul-Raheem;56152]:salam2:

"First of all, I don't think this was a 'victory' for Somalia. They managed to drive the US troops out of Somalia but that was it. Just another bloody phase in the history of Somalia."

Dude are you joking that was a ''victory'' for the Somalia. When you have some people come in your country and you are able to get them out unlike some countries it is/was a big time victory. Don't say it when you were there to see what they did! I am not saying cos it is my country but am saying because i believe if a weak country gets a another country out of their land that is/will always be 'Victory'. Mark my words it is!

P.S. Who are you to judge weater it was a victory or not, In the first place! Goes for all non-somaila people and those who are judging another countries victory!

wasalam :angryblue:

Say what? For the last time, just cause the foreign troops left, does not mean that the Somalis won! How many times do I have to say this. It was not a war to start with in the first place. They went there because of humanitarian aid. Anyways, the troops left because they realized that they were dealing with a bunch of ignorant fools who wouldn't even let them get aid to those who were in need. If you really do think that it was a victory for the Somalis, then you are just as ignorant as those who wouldn't let the foreign troops accomplish their goal.

BTW: who are you to say non-Somalis cant voice their opinions on this matter? Anyone has the freedom of speech to say what ever they want...when ever they want.

[Fardowsa]

what i don't understand is why the world doesn't see what is going on in somalia, where are the arab people the muslim people, i guess most of them are the bodyguards of bush, i thought musilms were like one body if one finger gets hurt the hole body feels the pain, but it's not happening because muslim countries are afraid of bush.
someone here said the americans don't lie, i am sorry to say this, but the media and the government all lie, now if u look at any news u will see them saying ,ehtiopia is fighting with a teerrorist group who are resisting peace, since when there terrorist in somalia or anyone who is a muslim and folows the quran is terror, the stereotype is what bush is using to destroy and kill innocent muslims.
the government lied when they said the leadres of the islamic courrts had links with al qaida. that was a big a lie , when they cuptured the leader they released him.

And you reside in the US....incredible! I wonder why you live in this nation, if you abhor it so much. Let me tell you something, its is not a lie, there IS a terrorist group in the capital of Somalia. They claim to be religious, but Allah knows what is hidden in their hearts. Don't you get it, there was a reason why they lost few months ago when they were fighting with the Somalis and their allied troops...it was because of the fact that they are a bunch of lairs, and Allah does not grant victory to lairs and hypocrites. They do not stand for what they said they stand for, they are just a bunch of drug lords who came together just to oust the PRESIDENT of Somalia. I hope this clarifies some things for you. Salaams

[suumaya]

Asalamu alaykum

Can someone please put this thread to sleep, i am getting sick of tired seening it again and again.

[virtualeye]

Sorry if I over reacted. Sometimes, I feel like a long tailed cat in a room full of rocking chairs while I am on this site. I know my country does many bad things, but Islam is the fastest growing religion here. There are many, many Muslims here.

America does not equal shaitan. It is a country with a varied population.


Remember the lesson my dear.

America is defined by 'Establishment'. Your eternal identity is nothing but 'Islam'. And nobody here is cirticizing American Muslims. We love'em.

If the thorns of a plant are hurting a person then he will say 'this plant is thorny'. Because this will not be the time to praise the flowers of that plant when that person is being hurt. So we Muslims are being hurt and we talk about that satanic establishment and not those good Americans/Muslims.

If I say 'Israelis are bad' then it does not mean each and every innocent child of Israel is bad. It means to point to the establishment and general impact of that nation on Muslims.

I wonder if you will be indentified as an 'American' on judgementday? or will it be Islam?


Consider a nation in some old times, to name 'Satanhood'. Now if Muslim's khalifa declared that 'Satanhood' is enemy of Muslims and that nation is worse. Now, if there were some Muslims living in 'Satanhood'. Should those muslims start weeping why their place of living being considered bad and enemy?


What about Rome? One of the most prominent thinker of Islam was 'Jalaluddeen Roomi' AKA "Maolana Roomi". He belonged to rome. But it was very clear that there were wars between Islamic rule and the Roman rule. So, Roman Empire was an enemy of Islamic Empire. Should those Muslims had moaned and groaned over anger of Islamic Empire that time?
Did we muslims consider 'Molana Roomi' as bad? (Naoozubillah). Instead, Molana Roomi was the great source of inspiration for the greatest poet phylosopher of the East, i.e. Allama Muhammad Iqbal.

So, the Muslims of the West are respected and loved, while infidel establishments are hated for their cruelties on earth.

I wonder when will you stop feeling bad when your 'temporary place of living in this wordl' will be criticized. Do you want to live in America forever? Those are also American Muslims who are thinking to migrate because they dont like their cruel establishment.

Better go watch some lectures of Prof. Noam Chomsky. Who is American but is much more fair than you in criticizing the hypocrisy of America.


I think I need not mention that I respect you a lot , not because you are an American but because you are a revert Muslim, and by God, that is the only relation I have with you.


Wassalaam,
VE

[Libinette]

assalamu caleikum,

can someone please close this thread because argument is an intervention of Satan.


No Dispute among the Believers


One of the secrets of the believers' success is the warm brotherhood and solidarity among them. The Qur'an emphasizes the importance of unity: "Verily, Allâh loves those who fight in His Cause in rows (ranks) as if they were a solid structure" (Surat as-Saff, 61:4)

Any statement or behaviour that may damage this close brotherhood would be an adversary act against religion itself. Allah (swt) warns the believers against this threat in the Qur'an: "Obey Allah and His Messenger; and fall into no disputes, lest you lose heart and your power depart; and be patient and persevering: for Allah is with those who patiently persevere." (Surat al-Anfal, 8:46)

Hence, the sincere believer must be extremely cautious of entering into such disputes, avoiding words or manners that may hurt his brothers. Moreover, he should behave in such a way as to increase affection and confidence among them.

In the Qur'an, we have the clear decree: "Say to My servants that they should only say those things that are best: for Satan sows dissensions among them: Satan is to man an avowed enemy." (Surat al-Isra, 17:53)
If a believer does not have the same opinion as his brother on some issue, he should nevertheless behave and talk in the most modest and humble way. Sharing ideas should remain on the basis of "consultation" and not "debate".

If a contention is observed among two other believers, then what one should do is indicated in the following verse: "The believers are but a single Brotherhood. So make peace and reconciliation between your two (contending) brothers; and fear Allah, so that you may receive His Mercy." (Surat al-Hujraat, 49:10)

It should be noted that even a minor argument of any kind may have very negative effects on our Brotherhood/Sisterhood

Jazakallah kheir

:wasalam:

[TheKnowledgeSeeker]

Please and please the founders of this website put stop to this thread deleted if you have to because it is get very ridiculous and i am lossing my patient over it. I am learning to control my anger and this thread is make me loss it. Please remember to respect others opinion even it you don't agree with it!

:tti_sister: - May Allah help us become patient muslims and good people!