CIA report: Israel will fall in 20 years

[ahmed_indian]

A study conducted by the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) has cast doubt over Israel's survival beyond the next 20 years.

The CIA report predicts "an inexorable movement away from a two-state to a one-state solution, as the most viable model based on democratic principles of full equality that sheds the looming specter of colonial apartheid while allowing for the return of the 1947/1948 and 1967 refugees. The latter being the precondition for sustainable peace in the region."

The study, which has been made available only to a certain number of individuals, further forecasts the return of all Palestinian refugees to the occupied territories, and the exodus of two million Israelis — who would move to the US in the next 15 years.

"There is over 500,000 Israelis with American passports and more than 300,000 living in the area of just California," International lawyer Franklin Lamb said in an interview with Press TV recently, adding that those who do not have American or Western passport, have already applied for them.

"So I think the handwriting at least among the public in Israel is on the wall...[which] suggests history will reject the colonial enterprise sooner or later," Lamb stressed.

He said CIA, in its report, alludes to the unexpectedly quick fall of the apartheid government in South Africa and recalls the disintegration of the Soviet Union in the early 1990s, suggesting the end to the dream of an 'Israeli land' would happen 'way sooner' than later.

The study further predicts the return of over one and a half million Israelis to Russia and other parts of Europe, and denotes a decline in Israeli births whereas a rise in the Palestinian population.

Lamb said given the Israeli conduct toward the Palestinians and the Gaza Strip in particular, the American public — which has been voicing its protest against Tel Aviv's measures in the last 25 years — may 'not take it anymore'. Some members of the US Senate Intelligence Committee have been informed of the report.

http://arabnews.com/middleeast/article67325.ece

[FreedomFighter]

:salam2:

There is a book about this, and the author uses the Qur'an and maths too. Like in the Qur'an it says israel will fall two times, it has already fallen one time. The second time will come soon InshaAllah.

[dna1987]

Assalam alaikum,

I think it is important for the Muslims to know what the Christian Zionists are thinking and how they will perceive this information. It is important, because if we know what they know, their reactions will not come as a big surprise for us, and we will be able to prepare for it .. at the very least, we can prepare mentally for it.

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If this article sourced from the CIA is accurate, then the Zionists know it very well too. And surely they will not Israel go down without a fight. The thing is, most Christians are waiting for this fight between them and the Muslims. They want it and pray for and claim that "World War 3" and the start of the apocolypse will bring back their true Messiah. Israel being destroyed will movtivate most of these nutjobs into a giant war with the Muslims worldwide.

[queenislam]

:bismillah:
:salam2:

Thank you for sharing the post.
May Allah swt reward you~Amin!


Take Care!
Thank you,

~Wassalam :)

p.s:i would like to make some amendment for the post quote:Christian Zionists are thinking and how they will perceive this information.
You see Zionist can never a Christian they are Jews ,
A Zionist is the army belonging to the Jews community!
Jews killed Christ they did not worshipped him.


Please get accurate on your information b4 posting~Thank you!

[ahmed_indian]

Jews killed Christ they did not worshipped him.



:salam2: sister,

they thought they killed Christ but they did not kill him as Allah brought Jesus back to Himself.

[dna1987]

p.s:i would like to make some amendment for the post quote:Christian Zionists are thinking and how they will perceive this information.
You see Zionist can never a Christian they are Jews ,
A Zionist is the army belonging to the Jews community!
Jews killed Christ they did not worshipped him.


Please get accurate on your information b4 posting~Thank you!

The information is 100% accurate. I'd like to make an amendment to your "amendment". Do you know what Zionism is?

Zionism: international nationalist political movement that originally supported the reestablishment of a homeland for the Jewish people in the Land of Israel.

"A Zionist is the army" does not make any sense. There's plenty of evidence in the video that there are Christians that are Zionists. Pat Robertson is another example, with 20 million Christian followers who are all Zionists and support the destruction of the Palestinian people.

Assalam alaikum.

[muslimda3ee]

:salam2:

in sha Allah, sooner, we just care about masjid alaqsa and the Palestinian freedom.

:wasalam:

[queenislam]

:bismillah:
:salam2:

Jewish Hatred for Non-Jews (Gentiles)Christians and Catholic people.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NELbNcg3NCw

How the Jews Treat Christians in Israel.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlT3ARuUSGc&feature=related


Christians in palestine doesn't have to do with Zionism infact many Christians was also killed during the Gaza war.

Zionist are formation of Jews and then became Jews soldier so they are called Zionist!


Thank you,
Take Care!

~Wassalam .

[revert2007]

Assalamualikum.

Christian zionist or Jewish Zionist..they are all the same ...they are all our enemies and in sha Alla we will fight them..The time will come and just make dua that we will be one of Allah's soldier on that day..in sha Allah.

Assalamualikum :)

[dna1987]

:bismillah:
:salam2:

Jewish Hatred for Non-Jews (Gentiles)Christians and Catholic people.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NELbNcg3NCw

How the Jews Treat Christians in Israel.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlT3ARuUSGc&feature=related


Christians in palestine doesn't have to do with Zionism infact many Christians was also killed during the Gaza war.

Zionist are formation of Jews and then became Jews soldier so they are called Zionist!


Thank you,
Take Care!

~Wassalam .

Once again, the definition for Zionism: international nationalist political movement that originally supported the reestablishment of a homeland for the Jewish people in the Land of Israel.

Thus, one can be a Zionist whether they are Jewish, Atheist, Christian or even a Scientologist. It doesn't matter! If I, as a Muslim, support the re-establishment of a homeland for the Jewish people in a place called "Israel", where occupied Palestine is today, then I would be a Muslim Zionist. Does that make sense?

Yes, while the Christians in Palestine are not treated well, that says nothing about the Christians in the USA and other countries. Pat Robertson, a Christian minister with 20 million Zionist Christian followers has stated that the Palestinian Christians should just let the Israelis put a bullet through their heads so that the second coming of their Messiah happens quicker.
Here is his site:
http://www.patrobertson.com/teaching/TeachingonIsrael.asp

Assalam alaikum.

[queenislam]

:bismillah:
:salam2:

Let me put it in simple form brother for better understanding.
Zionist is for jews!Just like the Roman for Catholics and Christians and The Mujahidin for Muslims!
They are army set up for religion!Different to the usually to serve common people!
Can you see the different???
So if one a Christian or any to serve Zionism and be Zionist Army know or may not know it, is like self killing it suicide!
Because Zionist/Zionism is for born Jews only!


This matter closed for discussion!I am sorry to dissapoint you.

Thank you,
Take Care!

~Wassalam :)

[Aapa]

Assalaam walaikum,

You guys make me feel so old somedays.

First...not all Jews are Zionists. Please google Desert Peace. An awesome website.

Secondly. Please read your history. Read the Protocals of the Elders..I even posted that once. Please go back and read about the formation of the United Nations. Please understand this is a complex issue.

Thirdly, there is a political agenda behind Christian Zionism. You can read a zillion documents. It fulfills the legacy of preparing for the End Times. Most Chrisitan Zionists are fundamentalists. There are very few educated people.
These poor people just want to be ready for the Rapture. They think if the Jewish Nation is here it is a huge step for the Second Coming of Christ.

Sister..there are Roman Catholics who are Christian Zionists. Roman Catholics are Christian.

Zionism is a political and racists agenda. It comes from the Europeans. We need to be careful. We need to know history and we can not make historically inaccurate or emotional statements.

Finally, anything out of the CIA is bogus. Look who was behind it. Read people read before you write.l

I do not mean to sound like a school teacher...but we are Muslims and must not be emotional but have knowledge to support our statements. Forgive me.

[dna1987]

:bismillah:
:salam2:

Let me put it in simple form brother for better understanding.
Zionist is for jews!Just like the Roman for Catholics and Christians and The Mujahidin for Muslims!
They are army set up for religion!Different to the usually to serve common people!
Can you see the different???
So if one a Christian or any to serve Zionism and be Zionist Army know or may not know it, is like self killing it suicide!
Because Zionist/Zionism is for born Jews only!


This matter closed for discussion!I am sorry to dissapoint you.

Thank you,
Take Care!

~Wassalam :)


If there were a facepalm emotion, I'd use it right about now.

Dear sister queenislam, please re-read the definition of Zionism and what it means.

Yes, the Christian Zionists are unbelievably stupid for what they believe. But their support for Israel is there because they believe only once Israel attacks and defeats all of its neighbours, will Jesus return to Earth. That is why I posted my original comment in this thread - that if Israel is to collapse within 20 years, they will not go down with a fight, especially when there are so many dimwitted supporters for them out there.

Please note, Palestinian Christians are being oppressed by Zionists too. I am not saying that we should be vary of or against all Christians. Just like we shouldn't be vary of or against all Jews either, as some of them are the most well-spoken critics against Israel (eg. Norman Finkelstein).

Assalam alaikum.

[Mabsoot]

assalamu alaykum, no need for facepalm emoticons, I believe the sister does not know that there is a Christian Zionist movement as well as Jewish Zionism.

Anyhow, I do not think that Zionists are a threat to the Ummah as much as they wish to be thought of. - They really enjoy when people waste their time talking about them and how much perceived power they have.

The real issue today is for Muslims to be working together, getting their priorities straight. Educating themselves and increasing their dependence on Allah alone, and increasing their love for each other. - I live and work with Palestinians daily, -- and I know that the answer to our problems come from within our ranks.

The enemies of Islam, the enemies of peace, can plot and plan as they like, -- Allah will never let them succeed.

assalamu alaykum

[Aapa]

Assalaam walaikum,

That is a powerful and needed statement. We need to increase our dependence on Allah subhana talla and we do need to increase our love for each other. It starts from the individual.

[arzafar]

assalamu alaykum, no need for facepalm emoticons, I believe the sister does not know that there is a Christian Zionist movement as well as Jewish Zionism.

Anyhow, I do not think that Zionists are a threat to the Ummah as much as they wish to be thought of. - They really enjoy when people waste their time talking about them and how much perceived power they have.

The real issue today is for Muslims to be working together, getting their priorities straight. Educating themselves and increasing their dependence on Allah alone, and increasing their love for each other. - I live and work with Palestinians daily, -- and I know that the answer to our problems come from within our ranks.

The enemies of Islam, the enemies of peace, can plot and plan as they like, -- Allah will never let them succeed.

assalamu alaykum

exactly, im fed up of the zillions of conspiracy theories going around. It's high time muslims took responsibility of their actions.

[Aapa]

Assalaam walaikum,

There are many substantial theories going around. I find it amusing that many Muslims challenge the work of hard working whistle blowers who have given up a lot to tell the Truth. If you wish to name the theories I will be glad to see what I can research. Keep in mind engineers, chemists, doctors, linguists, college professors, firefighters, eyewitnesses to events are the ones who have challenged the "government" version of the Truth. I posted a lecture..it is from an American; it is very informative. He was an eyewitness to the attack on the USS Liberty in 1967.

I pray you do not think that Muslims were responsible for the oppression in the world today.

[dna1987]

assalamu alaykum, no need for facepalm emoticons, I believe the sister does not know that there is a Christian Zionist movement as well as Jewish Zionism.

Anyhow, I do not think that Zionists are a threat to the Ummah as much as they wish to be thought of. - They really enjoy when people waste their time talking about them and how much perceived power they have.

The real issue today is for Muslims to be working together, getting their priorities straight. Educating themselves and increasing their dependence on Allah alone, and increasing their love for each other. - I live and work with Palestinians daily, -- and I know that the answer to our problems come from within our ranks.

The enemies of Islam, the enemies of peace, can plot and plan as they like, -- Allah will never let them succeed.

assalamu alaykum

Assalam alaikum.
Inshallah they will meet their defeat soon.

I agree 100% with this comment here, "I know that the answer to our problems come from within our ranks". The most important cause for our inability to defend ourselves is the lack of unity and the only thing that can do that well is if we focus on our unity within the bonds of Islam. Otherwise, there are too many differences that people, even Muslims, will fall prey to - differences in language, culture and issues with racism.

However, like most major problems that occur today, it has a multifactorial cause, and not understanding how the enemy gets their power and not anticipating their reactions is part of the issue too.

exactly, im fed up of the zillions of conspiracy theories going around. It's high time muslims took responsibility of their actions.

So yes, the core of our problem is due to what brother Mabsoot said, but that does not mean that other things are things are not true. What consipiracy theories are you talking about? The video above, for example, is not a conspiracy theory; it really is how these people are thinking. If more Muslims knew this, perhaps they wouldn't act as "shocked" when some Christian racist in the USA or UK says something pro-Israeli. It won't come as a shock when the media keeps on playing pro-Israeli clips, even after they raid an aid ship and kill 9 Turkish brothers of ours (civilians), because we will have some idea of their blind JudeoChristian support for Israel.

Not everything against Israel is a conspiracy theory, although they'd have you believe that. The USS Liberty attack (Aapa has mentioned it) is one of many examples. They aren't even "theories", it's been proven fact, but chosen to be ignored by the same people that had people believing that Iraq had WMDs.

I pray you do not think that Muslims were responsible for the oppression in the world today.

Quoted for the truth. The people in Gaza and West Bank are not directly responsible for the oppression against them today, but we are definitively responsible for our lack of a proper response. 1.5 billion Muslims with about 70% of the world's current natural resources in our lands, and yet we make up the most illeterate, incompetent and disunited group of people in the world.
Assalam alaikum.

PS: assalamu alaykum, no need for facepalm emoticons, I believe the sister does not know that there is a Christian Zionist movement as well as Jewish Zionism.Yes, I realised that sister queenislam didn't know there are Christian Zionists as well. The facepalm frustration came after trying to explain it three times and having this as a response:
let me put it in simple form..........
This matter closed for discussion!I am sorry to dissapoint you.