PDA

View Full Version : How do i tell my mother


IslamicPearl
01-10-2007, 07:05 AM
Salamaleykum everyone.
Ive been studying islam for few months now using different sources of internet. The new muslim videos are the most comfortable information u can get bout the feelings new muslims have after reverting. Im saying this because, aproximatelly one year back if i recall, my friends, who is muslim, told me to search on my own bout islam. I kept asking questions bout it but it was better to find out on myself. And i started to look for websites in order to find out more. I had this feeling that what i read was right but of course at first i was seeing islam as a 'new religion', like majority of nonmuslims do, and it was as if it was messing up everything my mother tought me in my whole life. So i read once in a while bout islam but it wasnt a continous search.
Only this autumn something happened. My friend wanted to show me live images from Mekka on watchislam.com but it didnt work. So after few days i wanted to see if it works and from link to link i found the revertion of the ex preacer Yusuf. That vid made me be sure of islam and see it wiht different eyes and thats when i started doing a deeper search on it.
A month ago i said the shahada, being alone at home, after someone gave me the pronounciation. I noticed there r people who say that u can do it on yourself, which seemes logic coz God knows u did it and maybe your r somewhere lost and u want to be muslim, or some who say that you need witnesses. So im not sure if God is considering me as a muslim or not. But one thing is sure: that i cant practice it for now, thought i cud hide from my mother but still i cant do all 5 prayers, and im not happy bout it. Also since i said shahada something happened that made me stop studing islam as if i had a feeling that i know almost everything, which is not true, and not practicing it made me feel even more down.
Im realising i have to tell my mother bout it first for herself and not only for me to be able to practice islam wihtout hiding from her but its my duty now to save her from the fire. And who knows what can happen, nobody knows when one can die, so i have to do something wiht my life.
Thats why i told you my story so that someone can help me wiht my problem: how do i tell my mother about islam, step by step, wihtout shocking her. I think it would be better if i make her realise the truth of islam instead of telling her i am muslim coz she will not want to hear anything about it then.

Thank you.

Muslim-
01-10-2007, 10:19 AM
Salamaleykum everyone.
Ive been studying islam for few months now using different sources of internet. The new muslim videos are the most comfortable information u can get bout the feelings new muslims have after reverting. Im saying this because, aproximatelly one year back if i recall, my friends, who is muslim, told me to search on my own bout islam. I kept asking questions bout it but it was better to find out on myself. And i started to look for websites in order to find out more. I had this feeling that what i read was right but of course at first i was seeing islam as a 'new religion', like majority of nonmuslims do, and it was as if it was messing up everything my mother tought me in my whole life. So i read once in a while bout islam but it wasnt a continous search.
Only this autumn something happened. My friend wanted to show me live images from Mekka on watchislam.com but it didnt work. So after few days i wanted to see if it works and from link to link i found the revertion of the ex preacer Yusuf. That vid made me be sure of islam and see it wiht different eyes and thats when i started doing a deeper search on it.
A month ago i said the shahada, being alone at home, after someone gave me the pronounciation. I noticed there r people who say that u can do it on yourself, which seemes logic coz God knows u did it and maybe your r somewhere lost and u want to be muslim, or some who say that you need witnesses. So im not sure if God is considering me as a muslim or not. But one thing is sure: that i cant practice it for now, thought i cud hide from my mother but still i cant do all 5 prayers, and im not happy bout it. Also since i said shahada something happened that made me stop studing islam as if i had a feeling that i know almost everything, which is not true, and not practicing it made me feel even more down.
Im realising i have to tell my mother bout it first for herself and not only for me to be able to practice islam wihtout hiding from her but its my duty now to save her from the fire. And who knows what can happen, nobody knows when one can die, so i have to do something wiht my life.
Thats why i told you my story so that someone can help me wiht my problem: how do i tell my mother about islam, step by step, wihtout shocking her. I think it would be better if i make her realise the truth of islam instead of telling her i am muslim coz she will not want to hear anything about it then.

Thank you.


First of all IslamicPearl, welcome to the site Sister. I hope everything becomes easier for you, and you can always share your problems here, and get them off your chest!

It's great to hear about your Shahadah.

Concerning about telling your mother, i'm not a expert in this issue, but may be drop subtle hints, or give her a book, or watch a documentary?

You know your mum best, and will know how she responds to you being Muslim..so if you think it would be hard for you, then maybe drop subtle hints about Islam.

more people will help answer this.

talkadams
01-10-2007, 11:31 AM
Salamaleykum everyone.
Ive been studying islam for few months now using different sources of internet. The new muslim videos are the most comfortable information u can get bout the feelings new muslims have after reverting. Im saying this because, aproximatelly one year back if i recall, my friends, who is muslim, told me to search on my own bout islam. I kept asking questions bout it but it was better to find out on myself. And i started to look for websites in order to find out more. I had this feeling that what i read was right but of course at first i was seeing islam as a 'new religion', like majority of nonmuslims do, and it was as if it was messing up everything my mother tought me in my whole life. So i read once in a while bout islam but it wasnt a continous search.
Only this autumn something happened. My friend wanted to show me live images from Mekka on watchislam.com but it didnt work. So after few days i wanted to see if it works and from link to link i found the revertion of the ex preacer Yusuf. That vid made me be sure of islam and see it wiht different eyes and thats when i started doing a deeper search on it.
A month ago i said the shahada, being alone at home, after someone gave me the pronounciation. I noticed there r people who say that u can do it on yourself, which seemes logic coz God knows u did it and maybe your r somewhere lost and u want to be muslim, or some who say that you need witnesses. So im not sure if God is considering me as a muslim or not. But one thing is sure: that i cant practice it for now, thought i cud hide from my mother but still i cant do all 5 prayers, and im not happy bout it. Also since i said shahada something happened that made me stop studing islam as if i had a feeling that i know almost everything, which is not true, and not practicing it made me feel even more down.
Im realising i have to tell my mother bout it first for herself and not only for me to be able to practice islam wihtout hiding from her but its my duty now to save her from the fire. And who knows what can happen, nobody knows when one can die, so i have to do something wiht my life.
Thats why i told you my story so that someone can help me wiht my problem: how do i tell my mother about islam, step by step, wihtout shocking her. I think it would be better if i make her realise the truth of islam instead of telling her i am muslim coz she will not want to hear anything about it then.

Thank you.

first, assalamu alaikum my sister.

I will like u to understand that,u are a muslim u should take ur religious obligations very serious i.e salat, becouse it streighten the iman and bring u close to Allah (swt)
With regargs to ur mum insha Allah these tips will assist.

1. PRAY FOR UR COURSE DIRECTLY TO ALLAH (SWT)
2.TREAT HER WITH KINDNESS,LOVE AND MERCY AS STATED IN QUR'AN AND SUNNAH.
3.INTRODUCE TO HER THE TOPIC ON :salah: ISLAM IN THE COURSE OF PLAIN DISCUSSION,SYSTEMATICALLY REMOVE THE BAD NOTION SHE DEVELOPED AGAINST ISLAM THERE AFTER U OBSERVED THE LEVEL OF HER MORALS(positive/negetive) AFTER SHOWING FACTS,DECLARE TO HER UR STATUS IN ISLAM IN SHA ALLAH SHE WILL FOLLOW SUIT MAY ALLAH GUIDE US AMEEN.

ibn azem
01-10-2007, 11:56 AM
Bismillah,

:salam2:

Welcome dear sister in Islam,

Alhamdulillaah (praise belongs to Allah) for showing His mercy to you, for guiding you and giving you the most precious gift in the world - Islam!

As for practicing and learning more and more about Islam, I advise you not to stop but to continue and learn about the fundamentals as that strengthens your belief in Allah (swt) and your confidence in life, and the brighter you are the wiser insha'Allah (if Allah wills):).

Ofcourse it seems at this point of time a bit hard for you to talk and present your Islam to your mother, however with patience and dua (supplication) to Allah slowly you will find the courage and insha'Allah you will even succeed on explaining to her the truth and the beauty of Islam.

The method of talking to her should ofcourse be kind and gentle, by showing your love towards her and how much she means to you as a mother, try to find and use the way your previous conversations and their method had the best results where your mother listened and accepted your ideas or prposals.
And also when you try to explain her anything about Islam, ask her questions; do not start directly on the topic about Islam, but on life in general and the creation and the puropse of our life, so that you make her think deeper about these things too.

And insh'Allah you will see that Allah (swt) will make it easy for you with the time even though you might face any difficulties, as we always have them in life though this time you have Allah (swt) with you and on your side as a muslimah.:)

I wish for you the best and ask Allah (swt) to help you with your family, give you the best in this life and reward you with the Jannah sister.

Take care sister.

wasalaam.

mustafaburaq
01-10-2007, 12:23 PM
s slm aleiqum

first of all i want to say that Allah (c.c) is considering you innocent as a new born baby ! thank to Allah , you have found the true way!

and i think you should make a strategy to tell your mum it. you can make her realizing you and she is different as having different body,soul,logic,thoughts however you are part of her.and you can tell her that "your family would be muslim if you came to earth in islam country" ,by this way she can realize society and family lead us for our lifes.and try to tell them too.tell her there maybe better,happier and peaceful ways.and tell her some verse of quran without saying it is verse of quran.and ask her what does she think about it? same or not? absoulutly she will give same.and after that u can say quran says something too. hmm step by step with little word games and making her think you can tell her....my way can be wrong!

Allah helps you ! inshaallah! take care... :)

allahsservant
01-10-2007, 01:01 PM
i too found islam nut was tto afraid after my conversion to tell ym parents. i finally tld my parents but they were angry. i should have waited because know i am questioning christianty(the religion i reverted from) and islam. if i were you i would talk to my mom at least 6 months - a year. pray and make duas and wear modest clothing. mayeb your parents will see how clean and nice you have become. then tell your mom about slam and insha'alah they will cme to find the truth of islam. sorry if this is not very good advice, but it really does depend on yourself and how good of a relationshipyou have with your mom! good luck,
allahsservant:ma: :tti_sister:

umm hussain
01-10-2007, 01:12 PM
Asalam alaikum warahmatullah

Allah truly guides whomsoever he wills. As for telling your mum, I know it must be really difficult. I didnt even tell my mum when I said shahada I got my sister to do it and when she found out it didnt go down well with her at all. You know your mum best and how she would react. I would love to tell my dad about Islam but I am scared of his reaction and like you said people can die anytime and i wouldnt want him to die without knowing about Islam, inshallah i will get the courage one of these days.

I think that will be a great idea to just make comments about Islam without actually telling her you are a muslim yet. Maybe say something like with all this publicity about Islam, I want to find out what this "religion" is all about and maybe she might even help you and with time maybe tell her that you have decided to become muslim after considering what u have been reading. I would love to use that approach with my dad but he is so far away in Africa and I am in England. Inshallah I will find a way.

Hope this helps

Karima
01-10-2007, 01:25 PM
Asalamualikum,

Find some 'common' threads about Christianity and Islam. Did you realize that the same Angel Gabriel who came to Daniel, and to Mary, also came to Muhammad? This can be something you could mention.

Also DVDs about Islam from the History Channel or PBS can be something to share together and discuss.

Being in America, our schooling only surfaced Islam. No one taught about this....and the Arabic Numbers, Medicines, etc. all came from the Arabic people! This is very much a positive aspect of how God/Allah directed those in the sciences for all of us to learn from.

InshaAllah, good can come from this, and not push anything....just expose what you have learned, as Allah opened your eyes to this. It has to be a miracle, in itself for you to be able to understand what you once did not know.

Salam

AishaR
01-10-2007, 01:33 PM
:salam2:

:ma:

Welcome firstly to the site & the family.
I feel your pain sister, as I have been through the same with my family. It wasnt an easy step for me to take but I have and my family have accepted my decision. Things were not easy for them, they felt as if they were losing me & nearly 12 mths on they still have many questions. My only advise sister is be patient, it may take sometime.
Dont forget we are always here for you.

:wasalam:

Islamthetruth
01-10-2007, 10:35 PM
:Sallam:
Sister I am very happy that you have joined the Ummah Mashallah. Inshallah this is a choice that you made which you will nvere regret.

regarding the problem you have stated:

My Idea:
Maybe my dear sister it might be a good idea if you ask her questions related to islam to see her response and that why u can share yourown knowldge about islam.

maybe if u ask questions then u wll know when to tell your mother.

I hope it helps inshallah and dont allow shaytan to control you. do your dailly prayers Allah will help you in the worst situations when ur sincer in ur belief and prayer.
I pray that Allah makes everything easy for

Ali_Ibrahim
01-10-2007, 10:59 PM
Dear sister
welcome to islam, it's an amazing thing that you've done. You miraculously accepted the dean of allah and have been cured of all previous sins, and may allah grant and give you everything you wish for insha allah.

Sister, I'm somewhat going through the same situation, although its not me who is converting, it's a friend of mine who i intend to bring to islam in case of relational matters.
The idea behind getting your mom to accept who you are and the faith you've chosen is by far the hardest thing ever to accomplish as I know because my mom will not accept this girl i am trying to convince to come to islam. Trust me sister, If i were you, i would seriously take my time, really reallu focus on matters other than your mom for it'll stress you in your daily doings. Performing salah to your best ability is obligatory but hiding salah from your mom does not mean you hide it from allah. For allah loves those who worship him alone in secret and outloud. I would suggest, that seeing moms are the ones who cook, you aught to bring up halal foods and then breed from there. But if i may tell you sister, do not and i repeat do not rush it, because if you do, then you won't succeed, and think about it, allah loves those who perservere so if your struggling with the acceptance of your mom, just remember allah gives you credit for what your doing. Allah tells you to obey your mom no matter what.. Obey her even if you chose the path of allah and she has not. You also have to understand that she is old ( i dont know her age) but im assuming that she's wise enough. and sometimes wise people think they know everything. So the way to approach this matter, is by taking it slowly through ideas of food, nature, and so on an so forth. I would also try n keep my distance and i would not try to argue with her for it'll even take her anger out on you for being a muslima. Remember, practice salah in private for now, it is still considered ok. and allah knows what your doing, had your mom been ok with it, you would make salah right infront of her so there really isn't a problem with hiding. If you were hiding becuase your not brave enough or some other ridiculous reason, that's another matter. So insha allah she will love you the same way she loved you from before, and may allah give her and yothe understanding, the strength to be successful. once again, welcome to islam and insha allah you live your life to the fullest degree in happiness ya rab.

NewMuslim
01-10-2007, 11:30 PM
Assalamu Alaykum
Many Brothers/Sisters have given you good advice on this matter (JazakAllahu Khair for that).

I had the same problem. My mother is a Christian and so is my brother. I tried telling my mother that I had reverted to Islam, but she got angry and yelled at me. My brother hate[s/d] Islam, so he was no better.

However, I continued to make Du'a to Allah (Glorified is He and Most High) asking Him to grant me the guts to tell them I'm Muslim.

I kept making this Du'a, and all of a sudden they know and aren't angry about it (though they may be thinking that I'll go back to Christianity, my former religion). They've accepted it.

Knowing this, I give you one piece of advice, though nonetheless important:
MAKE DU'A TO ALLAH (Glorified is He and Most High) ASKING HIM TO REVEAL YOUR REVERSION TO ISLAM TO YOUR FAMILY AND ASKING HIM TO HAVE THEM ACCEPT IT

MerveZeynep
01-10-2007, 11:40 PM
I'LL MAKE DU'A FOR YOU ALL..
AND I KNOW THAT IF A MUSLIM MAKE DUA FOR MUSLIM SIS. OR BRO. ALLAH (C.C.) WILL ACCEPT IT INSHALLAH..

shortest and best time inshaAllah for u and ur family...

Nur Sarah
01-11-2007, 11:48 AM
[QUOTE=Sdruly;34095]
A month ago i said the shahada, being alone at home, after someone gave me the pronounciation. I noticed there r people who say that u can do it on yourself, which seemes logic coz God knows u did it and maybe your r somewhere lost and u want to be muslim, or some who say that you need witnesses. So im not sure if God is considering me as a muslim or not./QUOTE]

dear sister,

when i converted i needed two already male muslims to witnesses...i am not sure for the reason. but maybe you want to talk to a muslim frind or go to your local iman. if i am wrong please correct me...:wasalam: Nur Sarah

Abdul-Raheem
01-11-2007, 12:09 PM
:salam2:

It's good to have witnesses but you can say it while alone.

:wasalam:

ibn azem
01-11-2007, 12:19 PM
dear sister,

when i converted i needed two already male muslims to witnesses...i am not sure for the reason. but maybe you want to talk to a muslim frind or go to your local iman. if i am wrong please correct me...:wasalam: Nur Sarah
:salam2:

What if you dye? how are you going to be washed and prayed the janaza and be buried as a muslim if noone knows that you are a muslim?

So I advise the sister to find a mosque in the vicinity and tell the imam about her becoming a muslimah, just to let someone know. That is important for that reason.

wasalaam.

Nur Sarah
01-11-2007, 12:19 PM
:salam2:

It's good to have witnesses but you can say it while alone.

:wasalam:

Assalamu Alaykum
thank you very much for the correction...Nur SArah

bemuslim
01-11-2007, 01:36 PM
Only you know when you are ready to embrace Islam, don't let anyone else make that decision for you.

. Do not delay once you have decided to embrace Islam, say the testimony of Faith in both Arabic and in your mother tongue.
Ash-hadu an laa-ilaaha illal-laahu wa ash-hadu anna Muhammadar rasuulullaah
"I bear witness that there is none worthy of worship except Allaah (subhaanahu wa ta'aala), and I bear witness that Muhammad (sallallaahu 'alayhi wasallam) is His Messenger."

. It is not obligatory to have someone witness your testimony but you can repeat the Shahaadah with a muslim helping you with the Arabic pronounciation

. If you take the Shahaadah at the mosque, you can ask for a written confirmation that you have taken the Shahaadah (this paper is not obligatory but might be useful one day, to get visa for Saudi Arabia for example)

. After saying the Shahaadah, take a shower and say your first prayer

. Changing your name is obligatory only if your present name has a meaning contrary to muslim beliefs. The great majority of new muslims do prefer choosing a new name. Some converts register the name change legally, others do not. List and meaning of Names for Sisters and Names for Brothers


After - What To Do - Top
. Continue following the recommendations in the "before" section
. Keep in contact with a mentor/teacher
. Register for classes for new muslims, attend lectures

. Learn how to perform wudhu (ablution before prayer) - new
. Learn prayer: text/ audio site - transliteration / audio - info on prayers new
. Learn Al Fatiha and short surahs here, or here , or then here new
. Scroll down to " Prophet_Prayer_Al_Albanee.pdf"
. Why we pray in Arabic? Read this article

. Build up your own folders of favorite and trusted sites
. Become part of your muslim community, participate in the activities
. Find new friends among trusted members of the community
. Meet with other new sisters /brothers and support each other
. Follow Islamic guidelines when communicating with men/women


After - What To Read / Learn - Top

. Continue following all what we recommended so far.
. Remember the points mentioned in Authenticity of Islamic Information
. Protect your faith: acquire a sound knowledge of Islam before satisfying your curiosity about deviant beliefs. Right now, visiting unreliable websites and reading about deviant beliefs would only lead to confusion: at one point you would not know anymore what is in Islam and what is out of Islam.

. Under the headings of "Resources", many websites are suggested
. The References List follows the same classification as "Islam Information Page". It provides fast access to essential information. It includes the majority of sites listed in "Resources".
. Islam Information Page presents links classified in 7 main categories and numerous sub-categories. It is a research tool for those seeking information on a variety of topics. Each category has a link for its own menu. Site Map gives you an overview of the contents of the whole website.


Resources - Free Books - Top

Arabic Language Resources - learn the alphabet
- download fonts - learn Arabic - read Arabic webpages
- learn the meaning of Islamic expressions

Articles and Books - check regularly for updates to the list -

Free Islamic Resources - prayer programs
- books - download - magazines - software


Resources - Audio Lectures - Books Online - Top
Audio - Recitation and Lectures

Audio Islam - extensive list of lectures on varied topics
Audio Lectures - Index - links classified by topics
Islamway.com - Quran - lectures - prayer
Transliteration for Prayer - learn prayer - audio / text - new
Transliteration for Quran - learn recitation - audio / text - new
Websites with Audio and Video - lectures/khutbah - radio/TV

Books/Articles to Read Online

Friday Khutub - islam1.org - 60+ Khutbah
- Islamic Centre of Raleigh - Imam Baianonie
Institute of Islamic Information and Education 30+pamphlets
Monotheism of Worship - Its Characteristics - Sheikh al Budayr
Muslim Beliefs - list of 105 tenets of Islam
The First and Final Commandment - from Christianity to Islam -
The Pillars of Eeman (Faith) - Shaykh Ibn al 'Uthaymeen
The Plain Truth - book written by a convert
The Pre-Requisites of the Shahaadah ( testimony of Faith)
What Negates One's Islam - what takes a muslim out of Islam

Resources - Websites - Top
- remember to read Authenticity of Islamic Information

Introduction to Islam
- for any Quran Translation -> be very careful and SEE warning
A Brief Illustrated Guide to Understanding Islam
Al Haramain Islamic Foundation - also offers free books
The True Religion - site also has a forum for non-muslims
Understand Islam - a new site presenting articles / audio on authentic Islam
Welcome Back To Islam - a site specially for converts

Islam for All
Al-Islam com - articles and audio
Ghuraba - forum and lectures
The Islamic Network - articles and audio
The Last Prophet of God - all about Muhammad (sallallaahu 'alayhi wa sallam)
The Qur'an and Sunnah Society of North America
Understand-Islam net - articles - books - audio lectures

Nur Sarah
01-11-2007, 01:39 PM
:salam2:

What if you dye? how are you going to be washed and prayed the janaza and be buried as a muslim if noone knows that you are a muslim?

So I advise the sister to find a mosque in the vicinity and tell the imam about her becoming a muslimah, just to let someone know. That is important for that reason.

wasalaam.

thank you for your reply to my question...i agree then that sister should tell some one!!!! may allah give you blessings and courage:tti_sister:

IslamicPearl
01-11-2007, 05:17 PM
I must thank you all for the help you have provided me. It really means a lot for me and for the way i will make the solution of my problem come to life.

Yes i have to take it slowly couse otherwise i will make mom go even further from islam and losing her from this point of view would be very very sad. I have noticed while watching documentaries or news that she realises that the Church, as an institue, is 'controling' masses, hiding part of the truth, the real history, the way they used only some writtings in the bibile and hidden the others, the way they 'killed in the name of God' or how traditions related to the important parts of one man's life may be exagerated. In the end she knows God is great, he protects us from evil, but still she believes in Jesus as his son....I believe that she is afraid to think if Him different than God's son coz thats 'the truth' and she would sin to think different. I was afraid at first too but im younger and young people accept faster new things.

I told about my shahada to my muslim friend but he is not here to help me or to come wiht me to the mosque. It seems pretty hard now to go there for the first time.

Im studying bout islam mostly from:
turntoislam.com
islamtomorrow.com
islam.ro
islamulazi.ro (maybe there are romanian muslims here that use these sites)

Do you think folowing the performer of the paryer form one of these sites is ok? Should i write them down to read them during prayer; but this would mean not to be in the right position coz id need to keep the paper where i can see it? And is it possible to find a romanian version of the prayers or is it better to strugle to read them in arabic thought i dont understand what they say?

I would be grateful if these qustions would be answered and im sure i will find more to ask. I hope this helps others in same situation as mine.

Salamaleykum

IslamicPearl
01-11-2007, 06:50 PM
I need to apologize. I just read that i have to introduce myself in the begining.

My name is ------ (which i never heard it wud mean something specific so i guess i can keep it), i am 20 years old, borned and living in the capital of Romania, Bucharest and i am a student. I came from an orthodox family just like the majority here.

Please tell me if i should write my introduction in a different section or anything else i should know.

bemuslim
01-11-2007, 07:02 PM
WELCOME MY SISTER IN OUR SHIP OF TRUTH THAT INCHLLAH WILL SAIL US TO THE SHORE OF HAPPINESS AND SAFETY.CONGRATULATION.

bemuslim
01-11-2007, 07:13 PM
THANK U DOR U QUESTIONS.FOR THE PRAYERS .THE VERSES SHOULD BE RECITED IN ARABIC BUT FOR THE INVOCATION THERE IS NO HARM IF SAY IN YOUR LANGUAGE.PLEASE LERAN SURAH FATIHA
http://www.islamdoor.com/Prayers.htm

ibn azem
01-11-2007, 09:18 PM
I need to apologize. I just read that i have to introduce myself in the begining.

My name is ------- (which i never heard it wud mean something specific so i guess i can keep it), i am 20 years old, borned and living in the capital of Romania, Bucharest and i am a student. I came from an orthodox family just like the majority here.

Please tell me if i should write my introduction in a different section or anything else i should know.
:salam2:

No sister you don't need to apologise,
You don't have to, it's not compulsory to to the introduction.:) Not a problem at all that you did it here.
I'm sorry that I can't help you with your romanian part, but insha'Allah there might be someone from Romania, I think I've seen a member here from your place.

Wudu and Prayers:

How To Perform Wudhu (http://www.turntoislam.com/forum/showthread.php?t=415)

Learn to Pray as the Prophet Prayed (English) Video (http://www.turntoislam.com/forum/showthread.php?t=412)

Please ClickThis Link For Step By Step Guide to the Prayer (http://www.turntoislam.com/forum/../index.php?page=pray)

wasalaam.

IslamicPearl
01-12-2007, 06:13 AM
:) But then, where can i find the english version of the paryers...writen not vid? It doesnt bother me to read them in english.

Thankyou

ibn azem
01-12-2007, 06:24 AM
:salam2:

I posted the link sister, here it is again from page three and on:

Learn the Prayer (http://www.turntoislam.com/forum/../index.php?page=pray3)

This helps insha'Allah.

Anything you need sister, just give us a shout.:)

Take care sister.

wasalaam.

IslamicPearl
01-13-2007, 11:15 PM
Yes thankyou...my mystake.
One thing is not clear to me....is it ok if in the beginin, till i learn the prayers, i keep a paper wiht the text in front? I know i should not move and i have to look at the prosternation place. And is it obligatory to wear hijab during prayer?

IslamicPearl
01-17-2007, 09:26 AM
Salam everyone.
I wanted to tell you guys that i had a raligious discussion wiht mom...which i planed to have but somehow Allah helped me to start it in a proper moment. I can see that mom knows that mostly xtianity is made and written by people but the main problem is that she belives in that thing that xtianity says : 'Believe and do not search.' So she thinks she is sinning if she will tries to find andswers to things that partly dont make sense. And of course that Jesus is son of god...

So from now on i have to tell her things and find answers for her that dont seem to be on contrary wiht her believes.

Take care brothers and sisters. Inshallah i will tell u very soon bout more progress.

maymun
01-17-2007, 10:39 AM
:salam2:
welcome sister

maymun
01-17-2007, 10:41 AM
:salam2: welcome sister may allah shower u his mercy, keep u strong and guide your mum to the truth
insha allah as all the bros and sister said be patient and insha allah when u thing it's the right time tell her. may allah make your task easy for u. don't feel lonly you have whole muslim nation with u sister no matter where u are
sister gain more knowlege and ishalaah it'll be easy for u. and remember any question theres answer from the quan and sunnah
and isha allah
I ask allah to guide your mum the truth ,
all the best and make:tti_sister: to your and sister who suffring in this world we live now:tti_sister:
:wasalam:

Karima
01-17-2007, 01:04 PM
Asalamualikum,

Read the forum PURPOSE OF MESSIAH?

In it you might find some 'common' threads that will show you what you can tell your mother.

Salam

ibn azem
01-17-2007, 02:51 PM
Yes thankyou...my mystake.
One thing is not clear to me....is it ok if in the beginin, till i learn the prayers, i keep a paper wiht the text in front? I know i should not move and i have to look at the prosternation place.
Bismillah,

:salam2:

Insha'Allah that is not a problem until you learn it.
Just try to put it in front that you don't have to make to many unnecessary moves during the Prayer.

and:
And is it obligatory to wear hijab during prayer?Yes sister, you have to cover apart from your face and hands up to the wrist.
Also not to wear tight clothes (like jeans and tight t-shirts).
So to dress up modestly basically (and that goes for the rest of the time as well-when in presence of a Mahram (http://www.turntoislam.com/forum/showthread.php?t=861&highlight=mahram), until you learn more about the dress code - Hijab (http://www.turntoislam.com/forum/showthread.php?t=711) insha'Allah).

May Allah (swt) accept your efforts, and ours sister.

wasalaam.

American Muslim
01-17-2007, 04:33 PM
Welcome sister,

I understand that you are afraid of telling your mother. Pray. Lean on Allah Ta'ala. Just remember, everything that happens is by the leave of Allah (swt).
If she responds negatively, know that there is a reason for it.

Stealing a line from Khalid Yaseen (excellent teacher), you are not changing your religion. You are worshipping the God of Abraham, Isaac, and yes, Jesus (may peace be upon all of them). You know more now about your Lord than you did. If you owned an expensive suit that you really liked, and you put on a stone, would you throw out the suit?! No, you'd go to a tailor and say "Hey man, can you pull it out a little here, and tuck it in there?"

Pray, even if in secret. Study, learn everything you can.
Most importantly, rely on your Lord to give you what you need, when you need it.

IslamicPearl
01-23-2007, 10:45 AM
Salamaleykum

Last night i had a talk wiht my mother. The main idea is that she already knows that chritianity is made by people just like all other religions are. She says faith and religion are 2 separate things. She just prays to God for relatives enimies health etc with her own words. I tried to make her explain whats wiht the Trinity, Son of God etc but she cudnt and told me to talk to a preast and that not eveyrone can explain these things.

So the conclusion is that there is one God, but somehow he sent the He's 'Son' to us to wash our sins, and every religion is made up. So how am i supposed to make her realise islam is not made up when she thinks its been invented by a crazy guy in a cave.

What am i supposed to do now?

And besides that she says i am worried by things i shudnt be interested at my age. I should enjoy life and be more happy instead of meditating. So now i am also insane huh.

:) life is wonderful but not thinking of God in the way we should makes it seem like time is passing and not leaving anything behind. The way people arround me live shows that they are afraid to die because they will leave this world and who knows whats after death...'we can not waste time meditating when life is so short'. Oh im not saying not to enjoy life but islam made me realise that this life truly is short but because it is a test and there is an extraodinary life waiting for us after we die (course if we do not have gr8 sins). For me life now is just the begining of the after life, if i can call it this way, on which the eternety depends on. Be nice to people, help them in need, do good deeds in any way u can, show people the true way, guide your children and be happy with what u have (family, money etc). And of course Allah is part of each one of these...24/7 wiht us.

koala
01-23-2007, 11:24 AM
salam:)

this is probably the best decision youll ever make...mashaallah may Allah keep you on the right track..try questioning your mother about the trinity aspect of Christianity...maybe youve watched the video of monica(the mexican woman) who reverted to Islam...when she realized how wrong it was(the trinity idea) she started to open up to islam...who knows maybe inshallah your mother will have had this tiny inch of doubt about it all this time...
as for your prayers i think you should start praying right away...i can imagine how hard it is for you but youll be getting so much reward for it....and of course God will have accepted you as a muslim, but better start praying...Allah is sufficient as a witness if noone else is present...
hope that helped
:salam2:

IslamicPearl
01-25-2007, 06:44 AM
Asalamu aleikum my brothers and sisters :laughing-dancing: :muslima:

Yesterday i took my first prayers :tti_sister: And i felt ease in every way: i was clean on the inside too and when i went outside even it was rainy the world didnt seems so dark as it was before.

Unfortunately i cant do the fajr and the night maybe i can hide couse of mom. I read that i can do it right away as i remember but in my case im skiping intentionately. I recovered just now bout 9:30 am but i felt it was wrong. Do you think i can continues like this....it is better than not doing it at all i think and also i am sleeping that hour in the morning and the one that is sleeping is fogiven but has to do it right away.

Wish me luck that i will learn them fast.
:muslima:

Bawar
01-25-2007, 09:00 AM
Assalamu alaikum sister
Congratulation on your first prayers yesterday
May Allah make it easy for you and for all of us to pray all five times everyday.
Keep trying and inshaallah you will get allah's help. There is nothing better in this world than being in direct communication with Allah, most merciful, the creator of everything, the unique.

Wassalam

stranger786
01-25-2007, 09:30 AM
:salam2:
Respected sister

Congratulation ....mashAllah u r doing great...just keep it up.Our Prayers are with u.Just continue urs struggle and inshAllah one day u will be regular in Prayers...

may Allah give u more peace and happiness.Ameen Ameen


:salah: :salah: :salah: :salah: :salah: :salah: :salah: :salah: :salah:

visionusman
01-25-2007, 12:02 PM
Assalamualaikum dear sister in islam. Welcome to the truth.Please do read and listen to what I have to say. Firstly I can not advise you much on how you should break the 'news' to your mother as I have never had to anything like that myself (Alhamdullilah I come from quite a religious family). What I can say however is that it is not your duty to save your mother from the fire at all. The Prophet (SAW) once said to his beloved wife Khadiza (RA may Allah be pleased with her), that he could not save even one person or that he could not convert even one person if it were not to be the will of Allah. Ofcourse you should tell the truth i.e. pass the message and preach it appropriately, but that is it. There is no compulsion in religion as you know and if your mother chooses not to accept it; that is entirely up to her. However practice your deen to the best of your ability to please the Lord Almighty. And for no other reason. Also remember that Allah is with the patient.
NB: I have found that being direct is often the best approach. May Allah be with you inshAllah.

aku
01-25-2007, 12:37 PM
Salam alaikum

CONGRATULATIONS on your reversion sister

May Allah swt strengthen you and all the Muslims in our Imaan and knowledge and make us beacons of Islam ameen

bro aku

bemuslim
01-25-2007, 03:48 PM
Praying Fajr reflects how much you love Allah the Almighty





The happiness of that guy was tremendous when a well-known company accepted him to work for it. He was over the moon as he was the only accepted candidate.

He signed the contract that implies that he should agree on respecting the company working hours, delivering weekly reports about his work and activities, and accepting to be punished for any delinquency ..... read more

Soon later, the guy met his manager and said to him, "From tomorrow onwards, I will not come in time. And I will not deliver my weekly reports in time either; instead they will be delayed for a while. In spite of all that, I will not allow you to punish me, and you don't have the right to kick me out from work."

If we imagine such a situation, we will laugh at the behaviour of that guy. No-one will see him but an insane and a fool person. How come can someone want to take his rights whereas he is not committed to his own obligations?!

So, why most of us do the same strange action or even worse?
(As we commit a worse sin against the Law of Allah the Almighty.) How can a sane person allow himself to enjoy all Allah's graces: such as food, drink, clothes and life pleasures; whereas he doesn't offer Allah the simplest obligatory He obligates him to do, viz. Praying?!
And even if he prays, then he doesn't pray in time or he prays like a rooster (i.e. he prays too hastily and carelessly). He neither complies with his praying nor apprehends what he says.

According to our web site visitors survey in the arabic section of IslamWay.com that included more than 4000 persons:
14% of them never pray Fajr in its time
16% of them rarely pray Fajr in its time
33% of them often pray Fajr in its time
35% of them always pray Fajr in its time


Subhan Allah!! (*) We are not talking about jurisprudence about which scholars disagreed or even a Sunnah that one has a choice to do or not. We are talking about ABC Islam. We are talking about praying that Allah Almighty obligates on all Muslims - whatever their conditions are.

When Allah the Almighty ordered Muslims to pray He warned those who delay the prayer after its designated time, saying:


"So woe to the worshippers Who are neglectful Of their prayers" [Surat Al-ma'oon 107:4-5]


The interpreters said that what is meant by this verse is delaying prayer after its designated time.They also said : "woe" is a very deep sheer black valley in Hell. Don't we believe in Allah's Words?

A lot of Muslims nowadays neglect Fajr prayer as if they it was not there. That's why they pray it much later than its time. In addition, some of them pray it immediately before the Noon prayer. Others may never pray it even for compensation (Qaddaa). So why all this laziness against what Allah the Almighty deserves? Don't we proclaim that we love Allah the Almighty more than any thing else? Once one of us loves someone a true love, he will be willing to meet him. He may keep thinking of him most of the time. Once he has a date with him, he canNOT sleep until he meets the one he loves. So, do those lazy prayers who do not pray Fajr prayer really love Allah? Do they really respect His Orders? Are they willing to meet Him?.

Let's imagine that a multi-millionaire offered one of his employees $1000 every day, just on one condition, viz. the employee must call daily at his employer's house in the morning as to wake him up then leave. Such a simple task may take the employee 10 minutes only. This marvellously generous offer will be valid as long as the employee keeps awaking his employer regularly. On the other hand, this offer will be cancelled permanently, and the employee will be asked to return all the money he received, if he neglects to awake his employer once without an excuse.

So, if you, my Muslim brother, were that employee , will you neglect to call at your employer's house? Won't you carefully intend to wake up daily to get the one thousand dollar? Won't you - once you failed one morning - try with all means to prove that you were truly unable to wake up?.

Allah has the higher example, so what about you my dear brother towards your Lord, Allah the Almighty? He is the ONLY ONE who gives you your means of living and who bestowed you with every thing, whose blessings on you are utterly much more than millions of dollars daily. It is Him Who says:

"...if you try to count the blessings of Allah , you will fail...." [Surat Ibrahim: 14 : 34]


Doesn't this Lord, the The Most Merciful, the Most Generous deserve that you wake up for Him every morning at about 5.30 a.m. so as to thank Him just in 5 or 10 minutes for His great blessings and his generous favours?


The judgement against those who neglect praying Fajr Prayer in time:
Allah the Almighty says:

"...for such prayers are enjoined on Believers at stated times." [Surat Annesaa: 4 : 103]
Islam is a comprehensive way of life… It is like an agreement between The Great Lord and His humble servant. According to this agreement, the servant commits to certain obligations before Allah. With respect to these obligations, Allah would grant the servant rights and privileges. It is insensible that you agree to this contract, then, soon afterwards, you do whatever you like and neglect whatever you do not like. Allah Almighty says in the Quran:
" O ye who believe! Enter into Islam whole-heartedly; and follow not the footsteps of the Evil One; for he is to you an avowed enemy." [Surat Al-baqara: 2 : 208]
The interpreters said: this means to accept Islam with all its legislation and rules. Allah got exasperated with the people of Israel when they performed what they liked from His religion and neglected the rest. That's why He addresses them saying:
"…Then is it only a part of the Book that ye believe in, and do ye reject the rest? But what is the reward for those among you who behave like this but disgrace in this life? And on the Day of Judgment they shall be consigned to the most grievous penalty. For Allah is not unmindful of what ye do." [Surat Al-baqara: 2 : 85]
As far as one's punctuality on attending prayers is considered, The Prophet (peace be upon him) sees those who do not punctually attend Fajr (dawn) and Ishaa (night) Salat in congregation as being sheer hypocrites "Munafeqeen". So what do you think of those who do not pray Fajr at all, neither in congregation nor alone (at home)?


The Prophet (pbuh) said: "There is no prayer more difficult to attend for hypocrites than Fajr and Ishaa. And if they knew what's in them (i.e. the good reward - thawab) they would attend them even if they had to come crawling." (Narrated by Bukhari)


Allah Almighty mentions that He disavows whosoever neglects the obligatory Salat. Besides, The Prophet (pbuh) said: "Do not ever leave Salat on purpose because whoever does so then he is disavowed by Allah and His Messenger." (Narrated by Imam Ahmad)
So do you like, Oh Muslim brother and sister, for the closest one to you to disavow you? So how do you neglect the Salat and cause Allah to be disavow you?


Well....now what have I to do?
Every one us should set an alarm clock to wake him for Fajr Salat daily.


We should give Salat its status in our lives, and we should discipline our jobs according to the Salat regular times. (Unfortunately, we simply do the opposite!)


We should sleep early and wake up for Fajr and then leave for work. Soon after Fajr, Allah distributes people's sustenance (Arzaq).


Each one of us should seek a good companionship that would call to wake him at Fajr Salat. Moreover, they would help one another to adhere to such a good deed.


We should keep on saying our nightly Duaa (that we say just after before going to sleep) asking Allah to help us do our Salat.


To feel guilty if we missed a single obligatory Salat. Furthermore, we should vow never to repeat this big sin.
May Allah make us all be among those who truly love Him. May He give us sincerity in both words and deeds. (Amen) Finally, whatever is right in this article then it is a gift from Allah. And whatever mistakes or shortcomings then they are due to myself or Shytan (Satan

READ THE PROBLEMS FACING THE NEW CONVERTS
http://www.muslimconverts.com/home/main-frame.htm

IslamicPearl
01-26-2007, 11:25 AM
Assalamualaikum dear sister in islam. Welcome to the truth.Please do read and listen to what I have to say. Firstly I can not advise you much on how you should break the 'news' to your mother as I have never had to anything like that myself (Alhamdullilah I come from quite a religious family). What I can say however is that it is not your duty to save your mother from the fire at all. The Prophet (SAW) once said to his beloved wife Khadiza (RA may Allah be pleased with her), that he could not save even one person or that he could not convert even one person if it were not to be the will of Allah. Ofcourse you should tell the truth i.e. pass the message and preach it appropriately, but that is it. There is no compulsion in religion as you know and if your mother chooses not to accept it; that is entirely up to her. However practice your deen to the best of your ability to please the Lord Almighty. And for no other reason. Also remember that Allah is with the patient.
NB: I have found that being direct is often the best approach. May Allah be with you inshAllah.


I decided to take mom slowly specialy that there is the media influence etc so this iwll take pretty long i think. Now i am student and i am kiving wiht her so there's nowhere i can move, nor wud i move even she wud be upset. But wiht time if there is no result i will probably have to tell her the truth and as Allah wills things will go one way or the other.

This issue is related to my prayers issue as i can not wake up to praye couse mom will surely know i am awake and asking what for. I do know its not good to lose prayer but for now i am trying my best. And to add my question: can i recover prayers i lost? for eg: today i had an exam and ive been studying wiht my friend so i missed yesterday and 2 for today. Can i perform the asr and then recover the morning? And can i recover those i didnt do since i reverted (bout 2 months)?

Thing is i am not feeling any burned to perform prayer or respecting the laws of islam. On the contrary, i do the long version of ablution and there are parts in prayer which i think are not obligatory. Even more, i am not eating pork anymore and mom observed. Its been really hard to avoid eating it but few days ago she got upset coz i was not eating it. I am only thinking that Allah will help me someway because i am not giving up and i am strugling wiht this.
For the last year i did not drink alchohol and she wud get upet coz i was not even saying 'chears' on my birthday. So there is some tension between me and mom. Inshallah they will be resolved. So i am not feeling pain but joy when it comes to islam except for when i can be the muslim i am becaus of the environment(sittuation).

Praise2Allah
01-28-2007, 04:18 AM
masha Allah brother. First let me congratulate you on accepting Islam :) May Allah reward you the firdos (the highest rank in paradise).
I think you should start off talking to ur mom by "hey mom, guess what I found out, the Muslims actually believe in Jesus and that he was the Christ. Thats interesting". Or something like that. Then from their go to the islamic ethics and how manners are very important. You can also tell her any story of the prophet Mohammed pbuh such as when the leaders of the Quraish went to him and told him:

“...If you want money, we will collect enough money for you so that you will be the richest one of us. If you want leadership, we will take you as our leader and never decide on any matter without your approval. If you want a kingdom, we will crown you king over us...”

In return? In return he would have to give up calling people to Islam. What did he say?

{I swear by the name of Allah, O Uncle!, that if they place the sun in my right-hand and the moon in my left-hand in return for giving up this matter (calling people to Islam), I will never desist until either Allah makes it triumph or I perish defending it.}(Al-Serah Al-Nabaweyyah, Ibn Hesham, vol. 1, pp. 265-266.)

"So this is very weird mom" or something like that lol that "why would he refuse if he was a fake prophet".

Hope my suggestions were an good insha Allah.