Did u Drink blood of brother today??

[br_rizwan]

:salam2:

Sorry for title brother and sister ..but its truth..

801

802

:shymuslima1:

[Joslyn]

Wow, I didn't know all of these companies were donating to Israel. That's kind of scary. I grew up believing all of those Christian fundamentalist pastors who raved about the importance of being supportive of the State of Israel, believing, as they said, "Those who bless Israel, God will bless them." My parents still believe it, but thankfully I have seen the light and am a submitter of Allah. Anyhow, I will be sure to avoide these places. Thank you for posting this!

:tti_sister:

[Mabsoot]

Assalamu Alaykum,

30% starbucks profit goes to Israel ???

there is no evidence that these firms donate to Israel. :) This is made up, and people need to be much more careful of what is said.

And for a company being boycotted merely because it is run by Jews is not good in Islam. The Prophet :saw: would buy from Jews.

We should be careful of any exaggeration or extremism.

Of course, if they really do give money to Israel (and I do not know why a British or American business would waste their profits doing such a thing) then we should boycott them.

Its a person's choice.

Wasalam.

[Abdul-Raheem]

:salam2:

I agree with Br.Mabsoot. A while back many people were saying how pepsi stood for 'Pay Every Penny to Save Israel'
and the Coca cola sign if read upside down reads 'no makkah, no muhammad'.
in arabic etc,etc.

:wasalam:

[riceman]

are you sure there is no evidence that starbucks does not help the state of Israel? I thought i had info regarding comments made by its ceo and the awards the company has received from zioniost organisations...anyway the point should be more like can we give up companies that have links to israel(cos heck thers a lot of em ) or is it inconvenient for us?
i admit freely its inconvenient for me (i use a nokia phone and an intel chip in my computer!
i dont think this is a straightforward issue

[Mabsoot]

Assalamu Alaykum,

I think a lot of it is hearsay, the real boycott most Muslims are already doing. And that is a boycott of Islam. This is aiding the enemy of Islam.

People follow hearsay and do not even know what the Truth of the matter is, nor do they go to check out the truth from proper sources. They do the same with their OWN Deen!! They do not check to see if what they do is actually in compliance with the Quran and Sunnah, they do not follow the evidences when they are clearly shown to be in the wrong.....

When you do not worship Allah, you boycott Islam!
When you do not follow the Messenger:saw:, you boycott Islam!
When you miss your prayers, you boycott Islam!
When you speak badly to your friends or family, you boycott Islam!
When you do not wish for your brother what you wish for your self.. You Boycott Islam!

---- This is the big problem. We are already helping the enemies of Islam by the way we live our lives. When we stay silent to the Ahlul Bidah and people who do Shirk. Muslims can not just Unite, we must unite on Tawheed and clear Aqeedah, we must strive to follow the Quran and Sunnah properly!!

When will you wake up!! Get up!! do something Straight. Allah has already told us in the Quran what we need to do. The Prophet :saw: has already instructed us what to do. . . As an Ummah, We are so ignorant, Is it any wonder we are in such a mess today? When you have people going to graves in Syria and calling upon the dead for help, or people in Pakistan doing same.. Is it any wonder we are in such a mess???? If people are getting the very basics in Islam wrong, how exactly is this Ummah ever going to succeed?

It will only succeed when people follow the Quran and Sunnah with the clear guidance of the first three generation of Muslims. As this is what our Prophet :saw: instructed. And we must obey Allah and his Messenger:saw:.

Learn your Deen by learning the Tawheed and Aqeedah, the real basics of Islam. We must always be readying ourselves with knowledge on these matters. We must strive hard to seek Allah's pleasures in these matters. Without having Tawheed our prayers, fasts and pilgrimages will mean nothing. And there are many people who do go on Hajj, who do pray, but their prayers are worthless because they associate partners with Allah. Because they reject the Hadith of the Prophet:saw: and so forth. Yet, Amazingly, brothers and sisters clambour over each other to celebrate these people as heroes of the Muslim world, even though the following day they will be killing our very Muslim brothers and sisters. May Allah save our Muslims from the treachery of the Rafidah and other evil people. Any evil person who attacks Israel is a hero? Astaghfirullah.

No Muslim can ever comprehend or understand the true way of dealing with other Muslims, or defending Muslim pride if they are not aware of Tawheed. If they are not following the Quran and the Sunnah. It is through ignorance that we are in the problem we are in today.

People please go here:

Ummah in Conflict:
http://www.turntoislam.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=25

wasalam.

[Paki Idol]

Well! I totally agree with Mabsoot.First, it's always about ourselves.We have to work for ourselves to make progress not just sit and watch and focusing on blame game.Seriously, that would so stupid of us.We must focus more on teachings of Islam.Enemies of Islam have always tried to show it as a violent religion. We have to make progress in every field or walk of life.Only then, we will succesfully show what the true Islam is! We must follow the Holy Qur'an and footsteps of the Holy Prophet the way the Companions of Holy Prophet followed.

[Abdul Hasib]

True true!

(waites for time to fly)

...But I still wouldn't buy something from them if they were Isreali cause anyone who supports Isreal is a blind person cause Isreali government kills muslims.
Right??

[NewMuslim]

Assalaamu Alaykum
I doubt Disney donates to Israel. Walt Disney was a renouned anti-semetic.

[iniyan]

:salam2:

Sorry for title brother and sister ..but its truth..


:shymuslima1:
asalamualikum
brother do you have any credible evidence to back your claim.

[Albint_Almuslima]

:salam2:
R U SERIOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I didnt even know that, i got about 3 starbucks next to my house and most of my firends buy their coffees from there.

I AGREE WITH BROTHER MABSOOT.
DO U HAVE EVIDENCE TO BACK UP WHAT U R SAYING.

[Daud McGuire]

stop trying to boycot! Do you think u have the power of Allah(swt). Trust in Allah, dnt be affraid of anyone but Allah(SWT) we are all brothers and sisters, some good some bad, What good will u show of ur life if u ran away from situations. Buy a starbucks if ur thirsty, thank Allah(SWT) u had a coffee to drink, for the wealth of the world is Allahs(SWT) and to who he wills it, its theres!

Dnt try and retaliate to Allahs(SWT) will, but say Alhumdulillah You know best Allah(SWT)

[Abdul Hasib]

stop trying to boycot! Do you think u have the power of Allah(swt). Trust in Allah, dnt be affraid of anyone but Allah(SWT) we are all brothers and sisters, some good some bad, What good will u show of ur life if u ran away from situations. Buy a starbucks if ur thirsty, thank Allah(SWT) u had a coffee to drink, for the wealth of the world is Allahs(SWT) and to who he wills it, its theres!

Dnt try and retaliate to Allahs(SWT) will, but say Alhumdulillah You know best Allah(SWT)
What do you mean?! We NEED to boycott these products cause even if they might not SUPPORT Isreal, we still need to be cautious of these things. I'll bet you $20.00 this board is gonna get closed because we're fighting over this. Just DON'T close it anyone because this is an important issue that affects our ummah.

[Abdul Hasib]

We can't be sure that these companies don't support Isreal or Zionists.

[dna1987]

Starbucks is the world's largest multinational chain of coffee shops.[1][2] Founded in 1971 as a coffee bean retailer, then acquired in 1987 by Howard Schultz, it has acquired and built coffeehouses all over the world


In 1998 he was honoured by the Jerusalem Fund of Aish HaTorah with "The Israel 50th Anniversary Friend of Zion Tribute Award" for his services to the zionist state in "playing a key role in promoting close alliance between the United States and Israel". The Jerusalem Fund of Aish HaTorah funds israeli arms fairs chaired by the butcher of Jenin - General Shaul Mofaz, and the zionist propaganda website honestreporting.com.


His work as a propagandist for Israel has been praised by the Israeli Foreign Ministry as being key to Israel's long-term PR success

Recently whilst the Israeli army was slaughtering Palestinians in Jenin, Nabulus and Bethlehem he made a provocative speech blaming the Palestinians of terrorism, suggesting the intifada was a manifestation of anti- Semitism, and asked people to unite behind Israel

At a time when other businesses were desperately pulling out of Israel, Starbucks decided to help Israel's floundering economy and invest in Israel - a joint venture with Israeli conglomerate Delek Group for Starbucks outlets in Israel ( Shalom Coffee Co). A bad business decision - Starbucks made heavy losses and in April 2003 Starbucks were forced to announced that all 6 Starbucks cafes in Israel will be shut down and its partnership with Delek end.

It has been revealed that Starbucks still continues to support Israel by sponsoring fund raisers for Israel.[15]

__________________________

, the Grassroots Advocacy Coordinator for the US Campaign to End the Israeli Occupation is adamant about boycotting Starbucks. Attending a recent conference, Ruebner said he and his colleagues were “embarrassed and upset” when they were served Starbucks coffee. He wrote a letter to the organizers, saying: “many conference participants and conference organizers were highly disturbed by the serving of Starbucks coffee at our conference.

“Schultz has been praised by the Israeli government for sponsoring pro-Israel, anti-Palestinian seminars on college campuses (“Losing the Media Battle,” Jerusalem Report, April 22, 2002) and his company has sponsored a fund-raising event for the Israel Emergency Solidarity Fund, an organization which engages in crass anti-Palestinian propaganda to raise money to support the families of Israeli soldiers who have died while protecting Israel’s illegal military occupation of Palestinian territories.”

Reubner wrote: “Because the CEO of Starbucks is so supportive of Israel and the system of apartheid that it has foisted on the Palestinian people, we strongly urge you to reconsider your arrangement to serve Starbucks products”.

He added, “We all have an obligation to make sure that corporations with which we do business are using those profits to promote human rights, peace, and justice, rather than racial discrimination, military occupation, and colonization.”[19]

Proof.

I agree with the stance of doing something. Allah (swt) helps people who take an active effort in helping themselves. You could sit all day and pray that you win a nobel prize for Physics, but unless you get off your backside and actually pull out a physics book and try and discover something new, nothing will happen.

Same with trying to help our brothers and sisters in Palestine. Yes, it's good to understand that not following the basics of Islam is a method of helping the enemies of Islam. But refusing to even acknowledge WHO the enemies are at all is also a mistake.

About trusting in Allah (swt), that is very important. We must all put out trust in Allah. But there is a hadith (heard it at the mosque..I'll try find it if I can), where a man went to the mosque to pray, and the Prophet :saw: entered and asked "who left their camel untied?", and the man replied, "I did, I trust in Allah (swt) that my camel will not run away while I'm here to pray at the mosque". The Prophet's :saw: reply was "Go tie your camel and come back, and then put your trust in Allah (swt)."

Those are not the exact quotes, but that is roughly what I remember from what I heard at the mosque (Please forgive me for any mistakes, and please correct me where appropiate.) Salam alaikum.

[virtualeye]

Wow, I didn't know all of these companies were donating to Israel. That's kind of scary. I grew up believing all of those Christian fundamentalist pastors who raved about the importance of being supportive of the State of Israel, believing, as they said, "Those who bless Israel, God will bless them." My parents still believe it, but thankfully I have seen the light and am a submitter of Allah. Anyhow, I will be sure to avoide these places. Thank you for posting this!

:tti_sister:

AssalaamuAlaikum,

Brother, Everytime I come to know such a story of a revert I feel lucky, (dont know why). I am very happy to know this indeed. May Allah give you highest place in Jannah and other muslims too (ofcourse me too).

Wassalaam

[virtualeye]

Assalamu Alaykum,

30% starbucks profit goes to Israel ???

there is no evidence that these firms donate to Israel. :) This is made up, and people need to be much more careful of what is said.

And for a company being boycotted merely because it is run by Jews is not good in Islam. The Prophet :saw: would buy from Jews.

We should be careful of any exaggeration or extremism.

Of course, if they really do give money to Israel (and I do not know why a British or American business would waste their profits doing such a thing) then we should boycott them.

Its a person's choice.

Wasalam.

AssalaamuAlaikum,
Brother sorry if I dare disagree, but I cant believe that you dont know about the Jewish companies' support to Israel. Please try to remind about the chains of Jews who are controlling the Media and financially as well as morally (immorally infact) supporting Israel.

Just to give you an example, The company "Revlon" mentioned in the names is owned by a very popular Jew who is the owner of many newspapers and channels too and is known to many people for his support to Israel.

And support to Israel is support to Zionism.

Do you think that all this rubbish and cruelty in the world is just because of few simple things? there is ofcourse huge drift of Jews. and just to see the chains used for that drift, check out this:

http://freedomfiles.org/usmedia.pdf


Currently, I am not in a position to give solid proofs of those companies involved in supporting Israel but I might provide you the evidences InshaAllah if you are really not conviced yet.

I am sure there are many documentaries and sources about them.

Wassalaam,
VE

[Saadi Sharif]

Salaam Alaikum wrwb,

I absolutely agree with Br. Mabsoot that our first forcus should be our own selves and how we are practicing Islam. When we are able to unite together as Muslims, practising our Deen as it should be practised, obeying Allah and His messenger Muhammad (pbuh), only then will we be able to truely overcome our problems both in this life and in the hereafter.

May Allah guide us to the Straight path, the path of those upon whom He bestowed his favour, not the path of those upon whom is His anger, nor the path of those who are astray.

Ameen.

Wasalaam Alaikum wrwb

[Abdul Hasib]

AssalaamuAlaikum,

Brother, Everytime I come to know such a story of a revert I feel lucky, (dont know why). I am very happy to know this indeed. May Allah give you highest place in Jannah and other muslims too (ofcourse me too).

Wassalaam
Uh, Joslyn is a SISTER; not a brother!

[Abdul Hasib]

We must boycott these products because being a coward in Jihad is what will make a muslim go to the fire.

Yes, being a practicing muslim IS the first problem ; but the way we affect our ummah is the second.

[hussain.mahammed]

As salamu alaykum wa rahmatullahi wabrakatuhu dear brothers and sisters.
First of all I would like to make a humble comment. We are not here to support one guy, bash the other, support this, go against that. No.
All we should do is that we share knowledge, gain correct information and ask Allah Subhanahu Wa Taala to give us Hikmah, to give us Wisdom so that He guides us into the path of Righteousness. Thats the most important thing which we are lacking today. A person who does not have wisdom will not be able to understand the meaning of Tawheed. And we know Wisdom comes from Allah Subhanahu Wa Taala.
Always remember that its Allah who is The controller, The master, The Provider. He is the one who is running the show. He is the one who knows what we do, what we dont. Every moment we should be remembering that we do things for the sake of Allah Subhanahu Wa Taala. Whatever we do its for His sake only.
walaikum as salam wa rahmatullahi wabrakatuhu

[Destiny_Jannah]

there is one in my university, and i keep telling muslims not to drink their caffee...And most people who drink their caffee are the people they hated the most and kill everyday..Yes trust me, 8/10 are:
Timhortans is better atleast isn't own by the same people..and if you don't like Timhortons, try second cup.

[NewMuslim]

As Salaamu Alaykum
I will, Allah Willing, continue to enjoy Starbucks (if I'm rich enough) and all those other companies.

These companies are probably run by Jewish people, and that doesn't mean that they support the occupation of Palestine.

Plus, it's easy to call a company "murderers" or "Zionists". There is no proof for these statements.

[dna1987]

As Salaamu Alaykum
I will, Allah Willing, continue to enjoy Starbucks (if I'm rich enough) and all those other companies.

These companies are probably run by Jewish people, and that doesn't mean that they support the occupation of Palestine.

Plus, it's easy to call a company "murderers" or "Zionists". There is no proof for these statements.

For your benefit..

Reubner, the Grassroots Advocacy Coordinator for the US Campaign to End the Israeli Occupation is adamant about boycotting Starbucks. Attending a recent conference, Ruebner said he and his colleagues were “embarrassed and upset” when they were served Starbucks coffee. He wrote a letter to the organizers, saying: “many conference participants and conference organizers were highly disturbed by the serving of Starbucks coffee at our conference.

“Schultz has been praised by the Israeli government for sponsoring pro-Israel, anti-Palestinian seminars on college campuses (“Losing the Media Battle,” Jerusalem Report, April 22, 2002) and his company has sponsored a fund-raising event for the Israel Emergency Solidarity Fund, an organization which engages in crass anti-Palestinian propaganda to raise money to support the families of Israeli soldiers who have died while protecting Israel’s illegal military occupation of Palestinian territories.”

Reubner wrote: “Because the CEO of Starbucks is so supportive of Israel and the system of apartheid that it has foisted on the Palestinian people, we strongly urge you to reconsider your arrangement to serve Starbucks products”.

He added, “We all have an obligation to make sure that corporations with which we do business are using those profits to promote human rights, peace, and justice, rather than racial discrimination, military occupation, and colonization.”

My last post has more info/proof. The official group in US, whose goal is to end the illegal Israeli occupation in Palestine, would not recommend people boycott Starbucks for no reason.

The owner, Howard Shultz, IS a hardcore zionist, and supports Israel. Salam alaikum.

[TheHumbleWun]

AssalaamuAlaikum,
Brother sorry if I dare disagree, but I cant believe that you dont know about the Jewish companies' support to Israel. Please try to remind about the chains of Jews who are controlling the Media and financially as well as morally (immorally infact) supporting Israel.

Just to give you an example, The company "Revlon" mentioned in the names is owned by a very popular Jew who is the owner of many newspapers and channels too and is known to many people for his support to Israel.

And support to Israel is support to Zionism.

Do you think that all this rubbish and cruelty in the world is just because of few simple things? there is ofcourse huge drift of Jews. and just to see the chains used for that drift, check out this:

http://freedomfiles.org/usmedia.pdf


Currently, I am not in a position to give solid proofs of those companies involved in supporting Israel but I might provide you the evidences InshaAllah if you are really not conviced yet.

I am sure there are many documentaries and sources about them.

Wassalaam,
VE


I agree with this brother, sure we need knowledge and wisdom but it's obvious especially the media here in the US is run by Jews. For instance, let's say someone robs a bank, you'll see in the newspapers and on CNN, "a MUSLIM man robbed a bank", but when a Christian, Jew, Hindu, Buddhist etc etc does it they just say "a man robbed a bank."

As far as Starbucks, I'm sure the management on top supports Israel as do many other companies. Google their investors, you will see. Caribou Coffee on the other hand supports Muslims and the majority of it's shareholders are Muslim.

[virtualeye]

As Salaamu Alaykum
I will, Allah Willing, continue to enjoy Starbucks (if I'm rich enough) and all those other companies.

These companies are probably run by Jewish people, and that doesn't mean that they support the occupation of Palestine.

Plus, it's easy to call a company "murderers" or "Zionists". There is no proof for these statements.

AssalaamuAlaikum,

Brother, should I say that I was expecting this kind of answer from you?

There was our Prophet (SAW) and Sahabah (RA) who used to stay hungry due to the lack of the loaf of bread.

There were some sahabah, one of them narrates:

It is related that Sahl said, "There was a woman among us who planted garden-beet (silq) on the irrigation channels in a field she owned. On the day of Jumu'a she would pull up the beet by the roots and put them in a pot. Then she would put in a handful of barley and cook it. The beet roots were like meat. After finishing the Jumu'a prayer we would greet her and then she would bring us that food and we would eat it with our fingers. We used to look forward to the day of Jumu'a because of that food of hers."

These Sahabah used to be so poor that they used to stay hungry and curiously wait for the day of Friday as a day feast.


Most of Sahabah were poor and could hardly provide for their families. Abu Talhah reports: “We complained to God’s Messenger of hunger, and we lifted out robes to show him that everyone of us was tying a stone over his belly. The Prophet lifted his robe and we saw that he had tied two stones over his belly.” (Related by Al-Tirmidhi and Ibn Hibban.)



Keep eating Starbucks brother. And keep asking for evidences of support to Israel.

It is not anyone's duty to spoonfeed you about each and everything, you could find out about these corporations if you would be curious for Allah's sake.

Wassalaam,
VE

[virtualeye]

I would ask the people, If Its is not what Jews and other infidels doing then what is there misery in the world? Muslims are doing this? Can they? Are muslims in power?

Might is Right here in this era, and currently the dominance is in the hands of Jews and Christians (ofcourse due to the weak faith and practice of Muslims in all aspects).


I would ask those who are opposing the boycott:

The time you spent in writing opposing posts, did you even spend 5 to 10 minutes search on the net about how the corporations are controlling the world.


There are some dumbstones in the way of Ummah, who never let any good work happen. That is why there was not even a single successful compaign in the Islamic world (Because you have many people to throw hurdles in the way).


I will bring some sources about the media and corporations, to spoonfeed those people who can not live without starbucks and other rubbish.

Wassalaam,
VE

[NewMuslim]

In that case, we should boycott all corporations and dodge taxes. Our taxes go towards the War in Iraq. Corporations don't spend money on charity, some own large companies which sell Haraam things (Post is owned by a company that sells cigarrettes), and most are owned by non-Muslims.

Obviously we shouldn't. Starbucks stinks, but not Nestle and some other companies. Even if we were to boycott some companies (.001% of their profits), it still doesn't stop the fact that the Corporations aren't the ones donating weapons to Israel.

So, it doesn't matter if a certain company supports Israel. It matters if a government supports it, and a major Superpower (the United States) does.

[NewMuslim]

As Salaamu Alaykum
I agree with this brother, sure we need knowledge and wisdom but it's obvious especially the media here in the US is run by Jews. For instance, let's say someone robs a bank, you'll see in the newspapers and on CNN, "a MUSLIM man robbed a bank", but when a Christian, Jew, Hindu, Buddhist etc etc does it they just say "a man robbed a bank."

This is the problem with us today: we blame everything on others. For one thing, a Muslim shouldn't be out robbing banks in the first place. For another, Jews aren't our enemies. It's the violent ones among the Zionists!

I believe the media is controlled by anti-Muslims, but I would hardly call them Jews.

As far as Starbucks, I'm sure the management on top supports Israel as do many other companies. Google their investors, you will see. Caribou Coffee on the other hand supports Muslims and the majority of it's shareholders are Muslim.

Starbucks was just an example (that company is a rip-off...four dollars for coffee). However, people who support Israel are different from people who want to kill Muslims.

I support Israel in the sense that I would donate to the Israelis (if I had money) to give its people food and their basic needs. The innocent should not go hungry.

Does anyone here have any proof that these companies are donating towards weapons for Israel? It doesn't matter how Israel spends the money it recieves; it matters why the money got there.

We shouldn't oppress ourselves. Allah has told the Prophet (:saw:) himself to not oppress himself and forbid what Allah has made lawful (for the Prophet (:saw:) did that).

[Basicofislam]

:salam2: Starbucks is a jewish owned company.

[NewMuslim]

:salam2: Starbucks is a jewish owned company.

Walaykum Salaam
Jews aren't the problem. Zionists are.

[virtualeye]

In that case, we should boycott all corporations and dodge taxes. Our taxes go towards the War in Iraq. Corporations don't spend money on charity, some own large companies which sell Haraam things (Post is owned by a company that sells cigarrettes), and most are owned by non-Muslims.

Obviously we shouldn't. Starbucks stinks, but not Nestle and some other companies. Even if we were to boycott some companies (.001% of their profits), it still doesn't stop the fact that the Corporations aren't the ones donating weapons to Israel.

So, it doesn't matter if a certain company supports Israel. It matters if a government supports it, and a major Superpower (the United States) does.


Ofcourse you cant avoid all the companies and make your life totally disabled. The matter is that you have to look for the less severe case. If one company is giving its 10% to Israel for the cuase of Zionism and the other is giving 1% then you better buy the product of the second one.


And with due respect I would say that the kind of arguements you are giving are no more different than the arguments given by nonmuslims on the Islam hatered website. (No offese to you but the argument).

The Islam hatered websites work on the basis of one principle. You bring the allegations and then ask Muslims to dispove. If not enough Muslims available to disprove then you declare them guilty. But when Muslims bring some allegations against nonmulsims, then again Muslims are asked to compile and bring all reference material. Both ways , it is duty of muslims to give justifications and disproves.

When many of your Muslim borthers here are telling you even then you keep on arguing. Is it essential that the content I read about how companies support Israel, I have to regather and compile for you? You better try to find evidence for yourself.

And to be on safer side, by just leaving the products of such companies, you dont have to sacrifice too much. Did you forget if something has doubt then it is asked to leave in Islam? Will it be a great sin if you leave those product just on the basis of doubts?


Anyway, I leave this matter to Allah.

Either some other brother/sister here will bring some "Authentic" proof for you or I will try if I can.

Wassalaam.
VE

[dna1987]

I agree with the stance of doing something. Allah (swt) helps people who take an active effort in helping themselves. You could sit all day and pray that you win a nobel prize for Physics, but unless you get off your backside and actually pull out a physics book and try and discover something new, nothing will happen.

Same with trying to help our brothers and sisters in Palestine. Yes, it's good to understand that not following the basics of Islam is a method of helping the enemies of Islam. But refusing to even acknowledge WHO the enemies are at all is also a mistake.

About trusting in Allah (swt), that is very important. We must all put out trust in Allah. But there is a hadith (heard it at the mosque..I'll try find it if I can), where a man went to the mosque to pray, and the Prophet :saw: entered and asked "who left their camel untied?", and the man replied, "I did, I trust in Allah (swt) that my camel will not run away while I'm here to pray at the mosque". The Prophet's :saw: reply was "Go tie your camel and come back, and then put your trust in Allah (swt)."

Those are not the exact quotes, but that is roughly what I remember from what I heard at the mosque (Please forgive me for any mistakes, and please correct me where appropiate.) Salam alaikum.

The ACTUAL Hadith: A man coming to the Mosque to offer his prayer dismounted from his camel and asked the Prophet (p): "Oh Messenger of Allah, do I tie it and rely (on Allah that the camel will be where I left it after I come out of the Mosque), or do I leave it here loose and rely (on Allah that the camel will be where I left it after I come out from the Mosque)?" The Prophet (p) replied, "'Iqil" (tie the camel) and then tawakal (rely upon Allah that the camel will be where you tie it when you come out of the Mosque)." In the illustration, note the number of steps and stages a Muslim must thoroughly accomplish, which are encompassed under the word of the Prophet (p), 'iqil.

[Globalpeace]

Asslamo Allaikum,

Unfortunately a lot of our Muslim Brothers/Sisters start things based on heresy; if you live in the west there are regular rumours about things being HALAL or HARAM & when you try to track the source it is usually “My friend told me so…”

We should be very careful about spreading rumours and SHOULD never spread news unless we have confirmation about it.

Having said that it is fact a lot of corporations and the media is mainly Jewish controlled.

It is a also known fact that many of the mainstream media organisations are biased towards Muslim in general and the issue of Palestine in particular.

It is also a fact that a lot of corporations like IBM clearly make donations to Jewish NGO’s & its public knowledge.

Can I suggest a halfway house solution (which makes sense to me)???

1) I think all Muslims should support Muslim business in general and businesses of practising Muslims in particular. Off course boycott where you have factual information but in general Support Muslims & Islam.
2) I think Muslims in general & Muslim businessmen & businesswomen particularly should try to GET AHEAD, honour their commitment and provide Service & NOT take us for granted…Anyone who has EVER used a Muslim travel agent (Hajj, travelling Muslim countries) would know very well as to what I am talking about.

[junaid hasan]

[QUOTE=Mabsoot;35272]Assalamu Alaykum,

I think a lot of it is hearsay, the real boycott most Muslims are already doing. And that is a boycott of Islam. This is aiding the enemy of Islam.

i am 100% agree with brother mabsoot.

in tv channel i can understand who is a jew und who is a muslim?

in palestine a lot of brother left sunnah(beard)

and during the time of prophet (sw) when the people left a sunnah (which was they forget to make meswake or a another sunnah) they had to face defeat in that war.

and now a days beard is (fard or wajib) i dont know, i just know it was a very big sunnah of all prophets and when they leaving this then isn´t it there result which they earned by their deeds?

[Globalpeace]

Asslamo Allaikum,

People are leaving Sunnah worldwide unfortunately and not just limited to Palestine...

I understand what you are saying brother.

[TheHumbleWun]

I'm sorry but Starbucks is owned by Jewish shareholders. It's better to be safe than sorry, even if you don't know it. That is why I purchase Caribou Coffee, majority of it's shareholders are Muslim. It's all about the management's perspective at the 'top.'

Just like how the US can boycott or put sanctions on a country (Palestine, Iran)
why shouldn't you boycott Starbucks and those other Jewish owned companies.

Did you know that Northrop Grumman, the #1 US Defense government contractor helps creates weapons for the military and even supplies them to Israel. If you didn't know that google "Northrop Grumman supports Israel."
So do you want to support them?

I'm sorry but when sometimes things are obvious you should be knowledgeable and make the 'right' choice.

walakum salaam

[Abdul-Raheem]

:salam2:

I really don't like coffee anyway:) It's nasty, Give me a nice cup of tea anyday!

wasalam

[TheHumbleWun]

I also wanted to add that if you are really thrirsty then go ahead and drink Starbucks coffee. I am speaking in general, you should try to stay away from it and purchase your drink elsewhere.

By the way, I don't drink coffee anyways. It has alot of side effects. Causes your heart to beat fast, raises your blood level, messes up your teeth/gums, makes you feel all irritable, and causes delirium.

Pass me a good cup of herbal tea brother Abdul-Raheem

walaakum salaam

[dna1987]

^^ Yes, but if everyone would read the other posts in this thread, we'd all realise that Howard Shultz, head of Starbucks, is a very active Zionist who is directly funding Israel with his money. And we all know what Israel does with its money..right?? Right.

[Abdul Hasib]

Is Lowes an Isreali company? For anyone who lives in America; you might know what it is. It's Like Home Depot but it's a new store and company and everyone likes it; but I'm getting really suspicous if it might be. We bought a lot of stuff from Lowes and I really want to know if it's Isreali. :(

http://home.earthlink.net/~jassnight/lowes.jpg

http://thefuntimesguide.com/images/blogs/home-depot-kids-workshop.jpg

[Abdul Hasib]

http://airfiltration.dupont.com/images/lowes.gif

http://www.reachthechildren.org/images/Atlanta,%20GA-home-depot%20logo.jpg

[OsMaN_93]

*bump*
:salam2:

[xSharingan01x]

[/U]. You could sit all day and pray that you win a nobel prize for Physics, but unless you get off your backside and actually pull out a physics book and try and discover something new, nothing will happen.
Probably the wisest opinion I heard on this board in ages :D
Couldn't have said it better.

Same with trying to help our brothers and sisters in Palestine. Yes, it's good to understand that not following the basics of Islam is a method of helping the enemies of Islam. But refusing to even acknowledge WHO the enemies are at all is also a mistake.

You're on a roll brother!
Where were you before on a muffin? :SMILY335: sorry for the lame joke.


About trusting in Allah (swt), that is very important. We must all put out trust in Allah. But there is a hadith (heard it at the mosque..I'll try find it if I can), where a man went to the mosque to pray, and the Prophet :saw: entered and asked "who left their camel untied?", and the man replied, "I did, I trust in Allah (swt) that my camel will not run away while I'm here to pray at the mosque". The Prophet's :saw: reply was "Go tie your camel and come back, and then put your trust in Allah (swt)."


Here is the exact Hadeeth.

One day Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) noticed a Bedouin leaving his camel without tying it and he asked the Bedouin, "Why don't you tie down your camel?" The Bedouin answered, "I put my trust in Allah." The Prophet then said, "Tie your camel first, then put your trust in Allah" (At-Tirmidhi).