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Kanini
12-02-2006, 01:37 AM
My name is Kanini,i am 13 going 14 female. I was brought up in a Christian community but lately i've been started to doubt my faith. I need a guiding light because i dont know where i'm going or where i am supposed to go. There is a muslim and a muslima in my class at school. They are teaching me the basics of the arabic language. I found a Qu'ran on my bookshelf, i feel that Islam is my calling but im not sure. I have believed in Jesus Christ all my life but lately i dont know what i believe in. I have just seperated myself from the church and i spend time reading the Qu'ran and wearing my version of a hijab because my family is predominately Chistian. My family was shocked. My brothers made fun of my hijab and i felt bad inside because they did not accept me. I now wear it when im alone in my room and i read the Qu'ran in seclusion. I doubt they even know that i read the Qu'ran. Although I have never worn a piece of revealing clothing, now i cover neck down and i donnot wear armhole shirts. My mother says i am one of the very few respectable women in my community.At this present point in time i am unstable in faith. If i ask for truth, every religion is the truth. My choice though is between Christianity and Islam.Really and truly, i want the truth, the real truth. I donnot want to be lead astray by lies and betrayal. In my quest for the truth i was awakened to the fact that the Unitarian sect of the Christian faith is very close to Islam. I have never been so confused in all my thirteen years than like now. Many times i pray to God to reveal the truth to me but i dont know what happens. More now than ever i wished that there were a religion that was both Christian and Islam, but that is impossible because they contradict each other. I only want this because it is hard to decide between them both. If i dont make a decision, i will probably live my life in the way i think God sees fit.The choice is hard. And even if i do chose Islam, who would buy my clothes and my hadith and all the et ceteras. All i want is the truth and a guiding light, i already have God.
haris
12-02-2006, 02:41 AM
Hello sister!
welcome to this site. It is so very good to learn that you are interesting in Islam. My advice to you is to stick to the site and read the articles about Islam as they will help you to understand Islam in great detail. Once you do understand what Islam stands for I am sure you will not find it difficult to realize the truth which you are looking for.
It is good that you are already reading the Quran.
I would advice you to read the following articles.
these are about the explanation and importance of Tawheed.
http://www.turntoislam.com/forum/showthread.php?t=807
http://www.turntoislam.com/forum/showthread.php?t=805
As far as the books are concerned you can contact the local mosque in that matter.
I hope and pray to ALLAH to guide you to the straight path.
alhamdulillah
12-02-2006, 03:46 AM
Bismillah,
Hello dear Kanini, how are you? Insha'Allah you're keeping well.
Masha'Allah (God had Willed)...you are trying your best in seeking the truth...well, if Allah put you to it, He surely will put you through it Insha'Allah.
You see dear Kanini, guidance comes from Allah Alone. 'Whomsoever Allah guides, none can lead astray, but whomsoever Allah leads astray, none can ever guide (Al-Qur'an)
You mentioned:
....My family was shocked. My brothers made fun of my hijab and i felt bad inside because they did not accept me. ......
Alhamdulillah (All praise is due to Allah)....always remember, the pleasure of the people, is the displeasure of Allah - But the displeasure of the people, is the pleasure of Allah...(Subhan'Allah - Glory be to Allah)...
Dont worry, may Allah keep you strong...if it makes you feel any better...i too was mocked at once (still am sometimes...lol...but Alhamdulillah, i have reliance in Allah)...your very young Masha'Allah....may Allah reward you for your effort, Ameen.
....I now wear it when im alone in my room and i read the Qu'ran in seclusion. I doubt they even know that i read the Qu'ran. ....
Alhamdulillah....you may want to keep it this way for now Kanini, in order to avoid trouble...you wouldnt want yourself to fall in a situation of this sort...and Allah says in the Qur'an that He does not burden a soul more than it can bare!
...My mother says i am one of the very few respectable women in my community....
Kanini, she may be saying this out of anger, try not to take it to heart...Allah ho Alim (Allah Knows best), but truly, every righteous person is respected in the sight of Allah - so what more do we need?
Allah says in the Glorious Qur'an:
"O mankind! We have created you from a single pair of a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes that you may come to know each other. Verily, the most honoured of you in the sight of Allah is the most righteous of you. And Allah has Full Knowledge and is Well-Acquainted with all things. [Surah Al-Hujurat (49) Verse 13]
Also:
"............Never will I (Allah) allow to be lost the work of any of you, be he male or female. You are (members) of one another, so those who emigrated and were driven out from their homes, and suffered harm in My Cause, and who fought, and were killed (in My Cause), verily, I will expiate from them their evil deeds and admit them into Gardens under which rivers flow (in Paradise); a reward from Allah, and with Allah is the best of rewards." [Surah Al-'Imran (3) Verse 195]
....If i ask for truth, every religion is the truth. My choice though is between Christianity and Islam. .....
well actually, every religion is not the truth. Frankly speaking, surely every religion would claim that they are upon the truth etc and we say no different! However, consider the following Verses of the Qur'an, Insha'Allah it'll become clear:
'...........This day I have perfected for you your religion and completed My favour upon you and have approved for you Islam as religion........' (Chapter 5: Verse 3)
"If anyone desires a religion other than Islam (Submission to Allah), Never will it be accepted of him; and in the Hereafter he will be in the ranks of those who have lost." (Qur'an 3:85)
Subhan'Allah.............
* If anyone has a real desire to be a Muslim and has full conviction and strong belief that Islam is the true religion ordained by Allah for all human-beings, then, one should pronounce the "Shahada", the testimony of faith, without further delay. The Holy Qur'an is explicit on this regard as Allah states. (See the Verses above).
.....Many times i pray to God to reveal the truth to me but i dont know what happens. More now than ever i wished that there were a religion that was both Christian and Islam, but that is impossible because they contradict each other. I only want this because it is hard to decide between them both. ...
As for you saying, that many times you pray to God to reveal the truth but dont know what happens...i would say dear Kanini, keep patience. Patience truly is a great virtue, realise your potential. On the other hand, your wish for knowing a religion similar to both Christianity and Islam - well you may want to read a few of these verses from the Miraculous Qur'an, just to give you a basic insight of this Religion, since Islam/the Qur'an is only proclaiming what was sent before. Prophet Muhammad :saw: was sent as the 'seal' of the Prophet hood (Subhan'Allah-Glory be to Allah)...
Allah reminds us in the Glorious Qu'ran:
'Say, [O believers]. "We have belived in Allah and what has been revealed to Abraham and Ishmael and Isaac and Jacob and the Descendants [al-Asbat] and what was given to Moses and Jesus and what was given to the prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and we are Muslims [in submission] to Him. '(Chapter 2: Verse 136)
'Indeed, the religion in the sight of Allah is Islam. And those who were given the scripture did not differ except after knowledge had come to them-out of jealous animosity between themselves. And whoever disbelieves in the Verses of Allah, then indeed, Allah is swift in [taking] account]' (Chapter 3: Verse 19)
And lastly (though you said this before the above mentioned quotes, i thought to respond to this particular quote towards the end) you mentioned:
.....Really and truly, i want the truth, the real truth. I donnot want to be lead astray by lies and betrayal. .....
Insha'Allah, Kanini, rely on Allah Alone...Verily, the Qur'an and Islam, is the utmost Truth! Never will it misguide you...it actually is the 'WAY' of life dear Kanini, so may Allah help you to accept it with full conviction, Ameen ya Rabb al Alamin.
I pray the above response/s helped you dear Kanini. If there's anything else we can do to help, please give us shout; and if Allah permits, we shall do our best to assist you.
For now i leave you in Allah's Care.....
* That paragraph has been taken from Islam Page.
mahdi
12-02-2006, 04:34 AM
asalamu alaykum. i don't know if you understand what i have just said. this is how we greate each other in muslim's. you know what is goodabout you is seeking knowledge,i have one advise for you .read the quran and the hadith of prophet muhamed s.a.w. don't stop just there read the bible. and you will ask this question to your self, why is this muslim man telling you to read the bible? well here is why the bible contains many informaions that talk about islam. you may not see the name of islam in the bible.but there is a lot of informations. if you wanna know these informations go to this website <ww.islamway.com > it will cambare the bible and the quran. so it is an imortant web .
fahad96
12-02-2006, 07:42 AM
Alhamdullilah RabiAllamin
Dear Kanini
Masha'Allah ...you are trying your best in seeking the truth about who are you and how are you here - Allah guide you to correct way
Do not think that who will buy cloth or food for you- Neema will comes from Allah Inshaalah
Congratulation
Fahad
AishaR
12-02-2006, 09:51 AM
Welcome to the site Kanini
Delyan
12-02-2006, 12:38 PM
el salam aaleykom ( May Peace be upon you)
My dear sweet heart, first of all I really want you to feel you all the admiration I have for you : hardly 13/14 and u you re seeking for the Truth.
The Truth is not the truthes, and Islam is the last on only religion finally sent down to the human kind that God, Allah command us to follow. Jesus is a Messenger as well as Moses before, and Abraham before, Noah..Yet, Mohamed is the last one chosen by Allah to spread the Truth u re looking for and that all human kind has to follow. Islam is serenity,peace ( in your mind, with the others, with your parents, ur family, your neightbours, the old man u ll encounter in the street, with ur butcher, ur baker ...) it s the religion of brotherhood, assistance, patience, Knowledge,. Read e QURAN, go on sites such as www.islamway.com (http://www.islamway.com), maybe u can go to the nearest mosque u can find
I also advise you for instance, to listen to ssome revert ppl on www.turntoislam.com indeed, many of them felt exactly as you, it maight help you to listen to the wa y they understand the Truth, the questions they ask themselves and so on
May Allah Protect you my dear kanini and Guide your heart to Him
sincerly yours,
sister Delyan:hearts:
wa salam
Noor to shine
12-02-2006, 02:48 PM
Dear Kanini :
I realy respect and admire your quest for Truth. Each human should seek Truth and never accept to live and die blindly. Dear Kanini Islam was revealed to confirm and correct the previous revealed messages which has been changed and tampered with by humans. We humans should be certain that our creator is one , none is comparable to and none is like God....If you read Quran you will learn who is Allah our creator.....Allah(God) is the creator every thing else is his creation ....This concept should be clear in hearts of believers to purify their hearts. please think about this verse:
3:64 Say: "O followers of earlier revelation! Come unto that tenet which we and you hold in common: that we shall worship none but God, and that we shall not ascribe divinity to aught beside Him, and that we shall not take human beings for our lords beside God." And if they turn away, then say: "Bear witness that it is we who have surrendered ourselves unto Him."
Quran
with love and regards
aliza
12-02-2006, 04:30 PM
ASALAMALIKUM KANINI, IN YOUR POST YOU TALK OF BELIEVING IN JESUS (PBUH) ALL YOUR LIFE, ISLAM DOES NOT TEACH U AGAINST BELIEVING THAT IT HELPS TO ADVANCE ON THAT AS U MAY HAVE READ JESUS (PBUH) WAS ALSO A MESSENGER BUT MUSLIMS BELIEVE THAT MUHAMMAD (PBUH) IS THE FINAL MESSENGER SO HIS TEACHINGS ARE FINAL. MAY GOD GUIDE U (AMEEN)
Garnet_Stone
12-02-2006, 05:46 PM
Assalamu Alaikum.
It's so great to know a young woman like you who, instead of following today's fads, follow what they believe is right and moralistic. You are on the right path! Many years from now, you will realize the many benefits of this path you are taking, take it from me, I had a very confusing time as a teenager.
I too was raised by a Christian family and I've been intensely studying Islam. When I was your age, I was quite a rebellious one. I felt lost, so I rebelled even more. I suffered from many things, such as eating disorders and depression. I had horrible relationships with men who didn't love me for who I was, and that made me feel even more depressed. When I discovered Islam, I realized that I would've dodged all those problems if I had learned of Islam when I was younger!
The society makes you believe that "freedom" is by wearing whatever you want and being looked at as a sex symbol, drinking and having inappropriate and short-term relationships with men. But do these things really mean? If you wear short outfits, men don't see you for the real you. In fact, you're showing them what they want to see! What good is it to wear short outfits? So men can see what they desire to see? So that's only serving other people's desires, not yours. If you cover yourself up, that's your way of telling the world that you refuse to be a sex object. In addition, drinking is far more dangerous than young people nowadays realize. Drinking leads you to do irrational things, you loose control of yourself. I drank a lot in college and suffered from alcoholism. I used to drink myself to sleep every night. What started out as "fun" became a dangerous obsession which could've killed me. There are many permanent health risks associated with alcoholism, such as liver failure. And about having "casual" relationships with men....what's so good about that? Personally, I want a man to love me, take care of me and treat me like a queen....casual relationships wouldn't fulfill those for me. A lot of men nowadays only want women for sex. Trust me, you deserve a lot more than that type of treatment!
So you see, don't feel very confused, you're on the right path! Don't pay too much attention to your brothers, someday, you'll be able to show them how peaceful and confident you feel about choosing your path. Your life will be so much better. You wouldn't go through the many problems I had growing up. If you keep following this path, you will grow up to be an honorable young woman, you will find a man who will love you and take care of you and you will find confidence that most women nowadays don't have. Keep it up!
Asude
12-02-2006, 06:26 PM
Welcome little sister,Kanini.You are in a good way because you have been aware of you and the wrongness in your life.Being awareness of wrong is the first step to correct the wrong and to learn truth.I believe you will find truth as long as you search.Go on reading Qur'an.It is the best way to learn truth.Your heart will say truth to you.Our prayers are with you.:allahuakbar:
~teenage~GiirL~
12-02-2006, 06:35 PM
WOW at such an age im suprised and very happy i just hope u make the right decision ... it is hard and at the end of the day God will judge u and i guess u should follow your heart... even tho i dont know ya im proud of u :)
Delyan
12-02-2006, 06:54 PM
WOW at such an age im suprised and very happy i just hope u make the right decision ... it is hard and at the end of the day God will judge u and i guess u should follow your heart... even tho i dont know ya im proud of u :)
of course she s making the right decision, el 7amdolilah, no doubt about that, choosing Islam is the path she s to follow because the reality is that at the end of the day no other belief will bring her the serenity she s missing.
sis delyan
wa salam
pilgrim
12-02-2006, 06:57 PM
welcome to the website,:hijabi: :hearts:
shadykan
12-02-2006, 10:26 PM
Salam sister
Welcome, and i'm sure you'll enjoy this site and find all the information you need to make up your mind.
I can't believe you're 13 !! wow, you seem very articulate, and i'm sure once you have all the information you need, the answer will be crystal clear !!!
Kanini
03-10-2007, 12:11 AM
in my exploration of islam i have found some things that are normal everyday life 4 me is haram. Drawing human and animal life is haram, mixing with males is haram exposing ANY part of the body is haram. I am sure there is a lot more to expect.
I never really ate pork or pork by-products and plus i grew up in a seventh-day adventis community where it does not allow the consumption of pork.
A year ago dressing like a muslim as easy, but not now im 14. There are some things that u just cant dress modestly for. Running (atletics), swimming. Wearing somthing above ur knee is already violation and running is alot shorter that that. In the swimming pool nothing is allowed except the one pice or 2 piece bathing suit. I live in Barbados, a Caribbean island between North and South America, so it reallllly hot. Im not an Indian neither am i of Indian descent so if anyone c a black person wearin hijab, ur like some sorta outcast or omen. The indians i live here with would consider me an "indian wanna-be" and would never accept me into the muslim community. so if i did bcome a muslima i would have to go abroad to marry.
wearing hijab has become difficult in this hot climate and instead "island clothes" are worn and beaches are swarmed so ppl can cool themselves down in the waters.And dressing like this violates the hijab.
Arabic is increasingly difficult 2 understand as bajan (corruption of english) being my mother tongue. I know english natural since we were an english colony and french and spanish are my 2 foreign languages.
I love to draw and i only really draw ppl hardly animals, but this is still a violation because this is probably seen as idol making or something like that.
Alot of our delicacies involve some small percentage of the essence of alcohol. Black cake, rum an raisin icecream and a whole host of other stuff. I was wondering if itsjust the essence if it still matters but i guessed not. Its a violation
Mixing of men and women. I got to school at a unisex school and its hard to avoid the opposite sex and even harder not to look at them. Even when a muslima goes to all girls schools the still cant look at their schoolmates.
Now i really believe that i should stick to being a christian an start goin back to church or something, because islam is a very difficult religion that has no sort of enjoyment. It focuses on the herafter so much that it tends to forget about the here and now. Islam was also birthed in a male dominant society which gives women no sort of rights or independence. I donnot want o become a muslim cos ppl will think i am makin a mockery of islam bcos of my ways and customs.I also wouldnot like to displease Allah by being a bad muslim. I know your way of livin and thinkin to u does not need any "modernisation" but it needs to be relaxed a little,tiny bit, but i have no authority and i am sure at least some ppl enjoy isalm, i hope.
Although i might not be a muslima or plan to be one i will still cling to this site and maybe some day i will be able to be a good muslim. But until that day comes, i will be either a christian(not likely) or a muslim who dresses,draws and mix with people like an "infidel" A.K.A a bad muslim. I will still read the quran , hadith, pray,etc. but i will not really call myself a muslim so i dont disgrace the name of islam. If Allah says im 2 be a muslim, ill b 1 if not so be it. I really want 2 enjoy life which islam doesnt allow
Hope Allah makes a clear definite say in this situation
Ameen
Kanini (fren who needs alot of guidance)
Umm_Ibrahim
03-10-2007, 12:37 PM
frist of all sis i found myself in ur post
I'm new revert to islam i was born muslim catholic wit 14 i became portestant all my family is protestant ( christian) but as u i found islam sis and i was very lost as u without know wat belive and wat do is very hard u leave wat u learned all ur life i know. But do pray sis for God guide and help u
u r doing a good thing studing as me 2 will not be easy with family in begin but with time they will accept i have 17 now i'm young like u. Do wat ur heart want and don't try do things for peopler but for God
May Allah Bless You
Allah Hafiz
:tti_sister:
Abu Eesaa
03-10-2007, 02:31 PM
Salaam Dear sister,
Its so elevating to see a young sister like yourself searching fro the truth.
I just want to say that I know you say you are confused between Christianity and Islam and you know you cant have both.
Sister Just remember that God has sent various messengers and prophets through time.
The original Bible and the Original Torah were both books of good and through time people have altered them to suit their own needs, hence neither of them being the true word of good anymore. Both books were sent as the truth but no longer contain the truth due to peoples evils.
Islam came along as a guide for the whole of mankind to elevate them from the dark ages of ignorance and as a complete way of life.
Islam had prefected its predcessors and is the final and correct message and Allah will not except any other religion in its place.
I hope Allah guides you to Islam, Insallah.
Make sincere Dua (pray) and as Allah to guide and place your faith in Allah.
Finally sister you said something about how would by hadiths for you and clothes.
There is plenty of websites that let you Download the entire Quran and hadiths.
For the Clothes if you become muslim I will buy you your first set of muslim attire. lol......
Salaam
May Allah Guide you.......
Abu Eesaa
proud2bemuslim
03-10-2007, 03:55 PM
Sister Kanini,
First of all I'm really happy to see you searching for the truth. Below is an answer by Sheikh Salman al-Oadah on What is the true nature of guidance? What is the true nature of misguidance?
Answered by Sheikh Salman al-Oadah
The following are needed for the realization of guidance:
1. Allah's ruling on the matter must be known; that is: what does Allah and His Messenger want from the servant on this matter?
2. The ruling must then be acted upon on the strength of faith in the heart that inspires the servant to act.
So, when the servant says: “Guide us to the straight way”, he is calling out to his Lord, saying: “Our Lord, direct us to what you love and to what pleases you in everything that will confront us in our lives. Then strengthen us and assist us to act in accordance with what we have come to know because You have directed us to it and taught us.”
All misguidance stems from one of two things: an absence of knowledge or the failure to act upon it.
The opposite of knowledge is ignorance. A person may have the desire to perform righteous deeds, but be ignorant of the correct way to go about performing them. He then follows a path of innovation on which he strives without benefit. How many are the Muslims who have fallen into all sorts of innovation and deviance while believing that they are conducting themselves in the best manner. The reason for this is lack of knowledge.
So, when we ask Allah: “Guide us to the straight way”, we are asking our Lord to instruct us and direct us so that we will not remain in misguided ignorance, stumbling about blindly.
Besides ignorance, there are vain desires. Knowledge may remove ignorance, but the person possessing knowledge may have no inclination to act according to it. He could purposely neglect his obligations or fall into forbidden acts, though he knows what the rulings are, because of his weak faith, his overriding passions, and his desire for immediate, worldly enjoyment.
For example, take a person who smokes. Because he smokes, he becomes concerned with the issue of smoking. He reads about it, and follows the news related to it. He learns about the serious dangers of smoking. He learns about what is contained within the cigarette that he smokes. He learns so much about smoking that he could actually present a very good lecture on the subject. In spite of all this, he continues to smoke. What can be done with this person? The issue at hand is not lack of knowledge. It is simply that this person does not want to give up smoking and has no intention of doing so. This is the most dangerous possible situation.
Guidance is of utmost importance. This is why we recite “Guide us to the straight way” in every unit of prayer. This shows us that the need for guidance is constant and enduring.
Ibn al-Qayyim (may Allah have mercy on him) writes in Kitâb al-Salâh:
The servant is in constant need of guidance to deal with everything that comes his way: There are some matters that he has embarked upon without guidance, so he needs to repent from them. There are other matters where he possesses general guidance, but needs to be guided in the details. Then there are matters in which he has partial guidance wherein he needs to be guided completely. There are those matters that he had been guided about in the past, but will need similar guidance for them in the future. Still, there are those matters about which he possesses no belief whatsoever, so he needs to be guided about them from the start. There are deeds that he has not yet performed, so he needs to be guided to carry them out. There are those matters about which he already possesses proper beliefs and engages in correct actions, so he needs guidance so he may remain steadfast upon them. Beyond all of this, there are many other forms of guidance. Since the servant is in need of all of this, Allah has made it incumbent upon him to ask for guidance in his best circumstances, numerous times throughout morning and night.
And Allah knows best.
furry
03-10-2007, 04:00 PM
Peace Be On To You:-
Well my dear fren, for me i suggest you shld go to youtube.com and search for Ahamd Deedat. Hear his lectures and debates and u will get some gr8 enlightment Insha Allah (God-Willing).
misalat
03-10-2007, 04:39 PM
My name is Kanini,i am 13 going 14 female. I was brought up in a Christian community but lately i've been started to doubt my faith. I need a guiding light because i dont know where i'm going or where i am supposed to go. There is a muslim and a muslima in my class at school. They are teaching me the basics of the arabic language. I found a Qu'ran on my bookshelf, i feel that Islam is my calling but im not sure. I have believed in Jesus Christ all my life but lately i dont know what i believe in. I have just seperated myself from the church and i spend time reading the Qu'ran and wearing my version of a hijab because my family is predominately Chistian. My family was shocked. My brothers made fun of my hijab and i felt bad inside because they did not accept me. I now wear it when im alone in my room and i read the Qu'ran in seclusion. I doubt they even know that i read the Qu'ran. Although I have never worn a piece of revealing clothing, now i cover neck down and i donnot wear armhole shirts. My mother says i am one of the very few respectable women in my community.At this present point in time i am unstable in faith. If i ask for truth, every religion is the truth. My choice though is between Christianity and Islam.Really and truly, i want the truth, the real truth. I donnot want to be lead astray by lies and betrayal. In my quest for the truth i was awakened to the fact that the Unitarian sect of the Christian faith is very close to Islam. I have never been so confused in all my thirteen years than like now. Many times i pray to God to reveal the truth to me but i dont know what happens. More now than ever i wished that there were a religion that was both Christian and Islam, but that is impossible because they contradict each other. I only want this because it is hard to decide between them both. If i dont make a decision, i will probably live my life in the way i think God sees fit.The choice is hard. And even if i do chose Islam, who would buy my clothes and my hadith and all the et ceteras. All i want is the truth and a guiding light, i already have God.
This is really touching words ... May Allah S.W.T. guide you to the straight path :tti_sister:
One thing i want to tell all christians... you wont lose jesus christ, anyone who dosent beleive in jesus (peace be upon him) and his mother Mary is not muslim, we believe in them we love them... he is prophet from allah and the last prophet who come after him is Mohammed PBUH
shaz_1999
03-10-2007, 08:58 PM
People have given you very good advice
I just want to say that make sure whatever you do its what you want to do not what people are saying or making you do
It has to be true in your heart, follow what you belive
With the Internet and Inshallah the help of people from this website you have the world at your fingertips to find out what you want and then you will know in your heart what to do
Hope you are well and please ignore the things people say if they are hurting you dont ever break down in front of them, if its what you want to do just do it
I am here for you to support you in any way I can sister
Muslim-
03-10-2007, 09:26 PM
Now i really believe that i should stick to being a christian an start goin back to church or something, because islam is a very difficult religion that has no sort of enjoyment. It focuses on the herafter so much that it tends to forget about the here and now. Islam was also birthed in a male dominant society which gives women no sort of rights or independence. I donnot want o become a muslim cos ppl will think i am makin a mockery of islam bcos of my ways and customs.I also wouldnot like to displease Allah by being a bad muslim. I know your way of livin and thinkin to u does not need any "modernisation" but it needs to be relaxed a little,tiny bit, but i have no authority and i am sure at least some ppl enjoy isalm, i hope.
Although i might not be a muslima or plan to be one i will still cling to this site and maybe some day i will be able to be a good muslim. But until that day comes, i will be either a christian(not likely) or a muslim who dresses,draws and mix with people like an "infidel" A.K.A a bad muslim. I will still read the quran , hadith, pray,etc. but i will not really call myself a muslim so i dont disgrace the name of islam. If Allah says im 2 be a muslim, ill b 1 if not so be it. I really want 2 enjoy life which islam doesnt allow
Hope Allah makes a clear definite say in this situation
Ameen
Kanini (fren who needs alot of guidance)
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Your first post was very inspiring from a 13 year old, inspiring because you are trying to search for the truth.
If you look at what Islam brought, you say in a very male dominant society, then how was it, that Aisha (RA) could be a scholar (Aalima)...
At the end of the day in your first post you said you want to search for truth, so search for the truth sincerely, and leave the rest to Allah. Yes there will be difficulties, but that doesn't mean we stop believing. That's what tests are for.
Also it's better being a bad Muslim then a disbeliever. Because atleast when you declare Shahadah and become Muslim, you atleast believe in the truth.
Just follow the truth, and dont worry about what people call you, or start thinking about being a very good muslim.
Take the first step...we are human
Bluegazer
03-10-2007, 09:57 PM
Hello Kanini,
There are several points [in your second post on this thread] that warrant an explanation.
1- You said the following:
mixing with males is haram exposing ANY part of the body is haram
You have to understand that if a woman conducts herself in an honourable way in front of men, and not be alone with them but be in a public space, then that's not considered forbidden.
For example, a woman wearing the hijab and loose clothing can go into the market and buy her needs, even if there are men in that market.
And the part of exposing "ANY" part of the body being forbidden needs further explanation. There's a difference of opinion even among knowledgeable and pious scholars about the need to cover the face. There are famous scholars [such as Muhammad Nassiruddin Al-Albani] who see that it's not an obligation for a woman to cover her face, but that if she does she will earn extra good deeds.
2- You posted the following:
A year ago dressing like a muslim as easy, but not now im 14. There are some things that u just cant dress modestly for. Running (atletics), swimming. Wearing somthing above ur knee is already violation and running is alot shorter that that. In the swimming pool nothing is allowed except the one pice or 2 piece bathing suit. I live in Barbados, a Caribbean island between North and South America, so it reallllly hot. Im not an Indian neither am i of Indian descent so if anyone c a black person wearin hijab, ur like some sorta outcast or omen. The indians i live here with would consider me an "indian wanna-be" and would never accept me into the muslim community. so if i did bcome a muslima i would have to go abroad to marry.
There are several points here:
a) Not being able to play some sports doesn't mean you can't turn to other sports. I'm sure you can find closed swimming pools and choose a time when only women swim. Also, you can walk in a fast pace instead of run. I'm sure there are other sports that don't involve forbidden acts in Islam.
b) If you think it's hot in Barbados, don't you think it was hot [and still is hot] in Mecca and in Arabia and North Africa? Practicing Muslim women there still wear the hijab.
c) If the Muslims there in Barbados accept you and welcome you as their sister in Islam, then that's great. But if -God forbid- they don't, then remember that accepting Islam is an act you do to please God Almighty alone and no one else. It is He who created you and it is He who will judge you on the Day of Judgment, not those Muslims in Barbados you're so concerned about. For Him to be pleased with you is more important than the pleasure of the entire population of this planet.
3- You posted the following:
Arabic is increasingly difficult 2 understand as bajan (corruption of english) being my mother tongue
You'll be required to know enough Arabic to perform the daily obligatory prayers, and that's achievable and has been done by many reverts to Islam who had absolutely no knowledge of the Arabic language before becoming Muslims.
4- You posted the following:
Now i really believe that i should stick to being a christian an start goin back to church or something, because islam is a very difficult religion that has no sort of enjoyment. It focuses on the herafter so much that it tends to forget about the here and now. Islam was also birthed in a male dominant society which gives women no sort of rights or independence. I donnot want o become a muslim cos ppl will think i am makin a mockery of islam bcos of my ways and customs.I also wouldnot like to displease Allah by being a bad muslim. I know your way of livin and thinkin to u does not need any "modernisation" but it needs to be relaxed a little,tiny bit, but i have no authority and i am sure at least some ppl enjoy isalm, i hope.
Although i might not be a muslima or plan to be one i will still cling to this site and maybe some day i will be able to be a good muslim. But until that day comes, i will be either a christian(not likely) or a muslim who dresses,draws and mix with people like an "infidel" A.K.A a bad muslim. I will still read the quran , hadith, pray,etc. but i will not really call myself a muslim so i dont disgrace the name of islam. If Allah says im 2 be a muslim, ill b 1 if not so be it. I really want 2 enjoy life which islam doesnt allow
There are several points here:
a) You said, "I really want 2 enjoy life which islam doesnt allow" and "Now i really believe that i should stick to being a christian an start goin back to church or something, because islam is a very difficult religion that has no sort of enjoyment. It focuses on the herafter so much that it tends to forget about the here and now."
Just because there are more restrictions in Islam and more emphasis on the hereafter doesn't mean that Islam doesn't allow us to enjoy this life. There are rules and limits in Islam, and within these limits, we are free to enjoy this life.
The following is an incident that happened to the Prophet [peace be upon him] which shows the moderation of the religion of Islam. I shall first post it in Arabic, then I'll post its translation into English, so that Arabic speaking brothers in Islam may correct the translation if I was mistaken:
جاء ثلاث رهط إلى بيوت أزواج النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم ، يسألون عن عبادة النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم ، فلما أخبروا كأنهم تقالوها ، فقالوا : أين نحن من النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم ؟ قد غفر الله له ما تقدم من ذنبه وما تأخر ، قال أحدهم : أما أنا فإني أصلي الليل أبدا ، وقال آخر : أنا أصوم الدهر ولا أفطر ، وقال آخر : أنا أعتزل النساء فلا أتزوج أبدا ، فجاء رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم فقال : ( أنتم الذين قلتم كذا وكذا ؟ أما والله أتي لأخشاكم لله وأتقاكم له ، لكني أصوم وأفطر ، وأصلي وأرقد ، وأتزوج النساء ، فمن رغب عن سنتي فليس مني )
A group of three men came to houses of the wives of the Prophet [peace be upon him] asking how the Prophet worshiped (Allah), and when they were informed about that, it's as if they thought it was little and said, "Where are we from the Prophet [peace be upon him] as his past and future sins have been forgiven."
Then one of them said, "I offer Salat (prayer) throughout the night forever."
The other said, "I observe Saum (fast) throughout the year and will not break my Saum."
The third said, "I keep away from the women and will not marry forever."
Allah's Messenger [peace be upon him] came and said, "Are you the same people who said so-and-so? By Allah, I am more afraid of Allah than you and [..........]; yet I observe Saum and also do not observe Saum, I do offer Salat and do sleep and I also marry women. So he who does not follow my Sunnah (legal ways) [in religion] is not from me (not one of my followers)."
[Collected by Al-Bukhari and Muslim and translated by Dr. Muhammad Muhsin Khan -with modifications by myself-, Al-Lu'lu'wal-Marjan..Arabic English, A Collection of Agreed upon Ahadith from Al-Bukhari and Muslim, Volume One, Hadith no. 885, pages 442-443, published by Dar-us-Salam Publications, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, First Edition 1995 AD - 1416 AH]
The dotted lines between two brackets [........] is to show my inability to translate the phrase وأتقاكم له, since it also generally means the Prophet's fear of God Almighty, but there must be a subtle difference that I cannot translate.
God Almighty said:
" Indeed, Qarun was from the people of Moses, but he tyrannized them. And We gave him of treasures whose keys would burden a band of strong men; thereupon his people said to him, "Do not exult. Indeed, Allah does not like the exultant. But seek, through that which Allah has given you, the home of the Hereafter; and [yet], do not forget your share of the world. And do good as Allah has done good to you. And desire not corruption in the land. Indeed, Allah does not like corrupters." "
[Translation of the meanings of the Qur'an 28:76-77]
"Say, "Who has forbidden the adornment of Allah which He has produced for His servants and the good [lawful] things of provision?" Say, "They are for those who believe during the worldly life [but] exclusively for them on the Day of Resurrection." Thus do We detail the verses for a people who know. Say, "My Lord has only forbidden immoralities - what is apparent of them and what is concealed - and sin, and oppression without right, and that you associate with Allah that for which He has not sent down authority, and that you say about Allah that which you do not know." "
[Translation of the meanings of the Qur'an 7:32-33]
b) You said, "Islam was also birthed in a male dominant society which gives women no sort of rights or independence."
When Islam came, it forbade the killing of female newborn babies, it gave women the right to inherit and it limited the number of wives a man can marry to four. These are not the only positive changes Islam has brought to the status of women.
And what does the Bible have to say about women?
"I find more bitter than death
the woman who is a snare,
whose heart is a trap
and whose hands are chains.
The man who pleases God will escape her,
but the sinner she will ensnare."
Ecclesiastes 7:26 (New International Version)
"while I was still searching
but not finding—
I found one upright man among a thousand,
but not one upright woman among them all."
Ecclesiastes 7:28 (New International Version)
The following is what Paul wrote, and its recorded in the Bible:
"A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent. For Adam was formed first, then Eve. And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner."
1 Timothy 2:11-14 (New International Version)
What did God Almighty say about this matter?
"And "O Adam, dwell, you and your wife, in Paradise and eat from wherever you will but do not approach this tree, lest you be among the wrongdoers." But Satan whispered to them to make apparent to them that which was concealed from them of their private parts. He said, "Your Lord did not forbid you this tree except that you become angels or become of the immortal." And he swore [by Allah ] to them, "Indeed, I am to you from among the sincere advisors." So he made them fall, through deception. And when they tasted of the tree, their private parts became apparent to them, and they began to fasten together over themselves from the leaves of Paradise. And their Lord called to them, "Did I not forbid you from that tree and tell you that Satan is to you a clear enemy?" They said, "Our Lord, we have wronged ourselves, and if You do not forgive us and have mercy upon us, we will surely be among the losers."
[Translation of the meanings of the Qur'an 7:19-23]
I'd also like to add the following verses of the Qur'an:
"Indeed, the Muslim men and Muslim women, the believing men and believing women, the obedient men and obedient women, the truthful men and truthful women, the patient men and patient women, the humble men and humble women, the charitable men and charitable women, the fasting men and fasting women, the men who guard their private parts and the women who do so, and the men who remember Allah often and the women who do so - for them Allah has prepared forgiveness and a great reward."
[Translation of the meanings of the Qur'an 33:35]
"And their Lord responded to them, "Never will I allow to be lost the work of [any] worker among you, whether male or female; you are of one another."
[Translation of the meanings of the Qur'an 3:195]
"The believing men and believing women are allies of one another. They enjoin what is right and forbid what is wrong and establish prayer and give zakah and obey Allah and His Messenger. Those - Allah will have mercy upon them. Indeed, Allah is Exalted in Might and Wise."
[Translation of the meanings of the Qur'an 9:71]
There's even a verse in the Qur'an which shows how God Almighty directly responded to a Muslim woman's prayer:
"Certainly has Allah heard the speech of the one who argues with you, [O Muhammad], concerning her husband and directs her complaint to Allah . And Allah hears your dialogue; indeed, Allah is Hearing and Seeing."
[Translation of the meanings of the Qur'an 58:1]
c) You said, " I donnot want o become a muslim cos ppl will think i am makin a mockery of islam bcos of my ways and customs.I also wouldnot like to displease Allah by being a bad muslim." and, "But until that day comes, i will be either a christian(not likely) or a muslim who dresses,draws and mix with people like an "infidel" A.K.A a bad muslim."
The greatest sin is refusing to enter the religion of Islam. A "bad" Muslim is still a Muslim. If this Muslim repents before he dies, God will forgive him. If he does not, and his sins outweigh his good deeds, then it is up to God Almighty. He may forgive him and admit him to Paradise, or He may punish him in Hell. But a Muslim who does enter Hell will not abide there forever. He will serve a certain time there, and then will be released from Hell and will enter Heaven. Mind you, I'm not in any way belittling the punishment of Hell. Any sane person will try to avoid even one second in Hell.
A non Muslim who has received the message of Islam in its true form and then dies as a non Muslim will enter Hell forever.
So, a bad Muslim is most importantly still a Muslim, and he's in a much better condition than any non Muslim.
In the end, I leave you with the following verses of the Qur'an:
"Say, [O Muhammad], "If your fathers, your sons, your brothers, your wives, your relatives, wealth which you have obtained, commerce wherein you fear decline, and dwellings with which you are pleased are more beloved to you than Allāh and His Messenger and jihād [i.e., striving] in His cause, then wait until Allāh executes His command. And Allāh does not guide the defiantly disobedient people."
[Translation of the meanings of the Qur'an 9:24]
Regards,
Bluegazer
Min-Fadhli-Rabii
03-10-2007, 10:01 PM
Hi Kanini,
I believe is God who is guiding to search for the truth...coz there so many people of your age and older than you ,they are not searching for the truth.
If you want to know the true religion,one way is by watching vidoes on youtube of debates between Islam and non-islamic religion by Ahmad Deedat ,Dr Zaik Naik .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYYjoOFlzvE
Also you can visit these website about comparative religion:
http://www.beautifulislam.net/
http://www.irf.net/irf/main.htm
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/pillars/
http://www.beautifulislam.net/
God bless you.
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