Aljazeera English channel

[Mrmuslim]

Today NOv.15.2006 Aljazeera Lunch its English channel


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[Submitter]

:salam2:

Mashallah I didn't know they were launching an English channel. It'll be interesting to see from what perspective they tell the news. I have visited their English website in the past and have always found they are quite more neutral compared to other news channels.

Wasalam

[nextman]

kool, can we watch this in england?

[Submitter]

:salam2:

kool, can we watch this in england?

Yep, channel 514 on Sky.

Welcome to the forum by the way ;)

Wasalam

[nextman]

thanks for the reply, appreciate it brother. btw its channel 514 on my sky digital.

wassalaam

[Submitter]

:salam2:

Hehe yes you're right bro, I checked and edited my post, then saw your post.

Wasalam

[Mabsoot]

Its Rubbish!

To know what is happening in the world, you need a brain. Nobody should accept face value what aljazeera, al-arabiyya, BBC, Fox News or any other organisation brings to the table.

Aljazeera is good for the naive people, so i guess it will do well with all the dumb people.

They are concerned with making profits and also seeking acceptance by some governments. Therefore they make their content more mainstream and acceptable - They bring along bbc reporters and ex-gov cronies like David Frost etc. They have a whole line of dumb reporters from ITV and BBC. This is to water things down.

Their arabic tv station is just as bad, but they have very sensationalist and emotional people. They like being emotional and reacting over the top, thats why they their target market likes them.

Sometimes Aljazeera is as accurate as Fox News. But, that doesnt matter as long as people hear what they want to hear.

They might put some good documentaries on, but to think that their News bulletins will be groundbreaking and a breath of fresh air is pushing it!

[nextman]

Its Rubbish!

To know what is happening in the world, you need a brain. Nobody should accept face value what aljazeera, al-arabiyya, BBC, Fox News or any other organisation brings to the table.

Aljazeera is good for the naive people, so i guess it will do well with all the dumb people.

They are concerned with making profits and also seeking acceptance by some governments. Therefore they make their content more mainstream and acceptable - They bring along bbc reporters and ex-gov cronies like David Frost etc. They have a whole line of dumb reporters from ITV and BBC. This is to water things down.

Their arabic tv station is just as bad, but they have very sensationalist and emotional people. They like being emotional and reacting over the top, thats why they their target market likes them.

Sometimes Aljazeera is as accurate as Fox News. But, that doesnt matter as long as people hear what they want to hear.

They might put some good documentaries on, but to think that their News bulletins will be groundbreaking and a breath of fresh air is pushing it!


you got all of that from less than 24 hours or broadcasting? have a bit of patience and wait before you decide to review something you know nothing about.

[Abdul-Raheem]

You may turn out to be right Br.Mabsoot but i agree with nextman on this. You should give it some time before passing judgment.

[mahadiwarrior]

I do believe time would tell, I am in the U.S and would more than likely try and get a dish, so I can get this channel, it is better than watching CNN....NBC.... FOX or any of this local channels, we are brainwashed in America and some of this channels don't even show both side of the story, they only show one, the one they think is right......it would be nice to get Al Jazzera and hopefully both side of the story in english......does anybody know what is the best dish I can buy to get this in U.S.A..........?

[Submitter]

:salam2:

You may find this useful:

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/91EEF363-FE1D-4EB9-A7D9-EF3701E39A3B.htm

Wasalam

[Mrmuslim]

salaam alikom

Well what Mabsoot said might be right, but in one way it will show the non arabic or non-muslim audiance the point of Muslims and Arabs on different issues, Even bush wanted to bomb aljazeera just because they were showing too much at the time of attacking Iraq.

I would say there will be good thing out of this as much as it might have bad effect spiecially the audiance who just watch Fox and CNN news.

I usually follow the Daily Show of john steward who put the news in funny way at the same time make a point out it.


wa salaam

[Mabsoot]

you got all of that from less than 24 hours or broadcasting? have a bit of patience and wait before you decide to review something you know nothing about.

Hi, i know quite a bit about it actually. Perhaps you should do your research about the people they promote on their channel, before commenting.

Anybody with an iota of sense would understand that someone like David Frost or ex-bbc and ITN reporters is not exactly cutting edge groundbreaking news.

Established media can then write off certain things as opinion and polemic whilst upholding the "traditional" news values as just news.

AlJazeera poses very little threat to the established news corporations because it runs along the same lines. I know it is hard for some of you to fathom.

You see, in order to look "sensible", Aljazeera English toned down everything and start from a different angle. They kicked Yvonne Ridley out after her expose of the US Soldiers tying civillians up, due to US pressure. They have borrowed loads of articles from reuters for their website. This is not cutting edge ground breaking reporting.

Anyway, i recommend you take some time to know about the use of language, symbols, style that the news takes. It is a rigid formula which ends with news taking a simple form. In pursuit of seeming balanced they do quite the opposite with regards to the reality of the situation at hand. For example, juxtaposing 1 Israeli death with that of 30 Palestinians, whilst giving same amount of air-time to each. This is one of the problems with BBC and others. Also the use of language.

All these modes of address signify the practise of news. Simply swapping words is not enough, i.e calling Hamas terrorists freedom fighters etc.

Anyway, dont get me wrong, i'd rather watch that then FoxNews, im just not satisfied with any of these news organisations.

[dna1987]

AlJazeera poses very little threat to the established news corporations because it runs along the same lines. I know it is hard for some of you to fathom.

QFT. Thanks for posting this Mabsoot, I'm not the first one on this thread to say that Al-Jazeera is no different to other mainstream news sources, etc. If anything, this will be a great chance for people who love Fox, CBS, etc to say "see, even the Arabs are saying the same thing". :wasalam:

[IMAM]

after reading mabsoot my feet are firmly back on the `ground`..it`s like finding out your wife had cold feet before the weeding,if anything thats more of a reason not to trust the news outlet(definately this doesnt refer to your wife).
some think it is a bin laden channel while others say it would be another `bbc` or `ccn` cant say how refreshing that is,but to xpect the world from aljazeera is unfair.....i still prefer hamas being called terrorist org though

[talibulislam]

but do we know recently warnner brother own the major shares of aljazeera,so where we aheading an where we gona b at the end.hopefully not new form of cnn or bbc,hopefully they don't switch at the end but so far its better then watching fox news alhamdilillah
may allah guide all of us to straight path insh'aLLAH

[Abu Mohaned]

Assalamo Alaykom,

To who make a negative decision in advance about Aljazeera.
Just to remind you.

( O you who believe! stand out firmly for Allah and be just witnesses and let not the enmity and hatred of others make you avoid justice. Be just:that is nearer to piety, and fear Allah )
Al-Maidah ( 5:8 ).

Assalamo Alaykom,

[NewMuslim]

:salam2:
Media has its ups and downs. But to say stuff like "it's run by the Jews" is pretty dumb.

I know nothing about AlJazeera since knowing my government, I would be a "terrorist" for watching it. But everyone in my country (besides the Republicans) know that Fox News is horrible. All the other news sources are reliable, and I don't find it fair to say they're not.

[NewbieToIslam]

I thought Al-Jazeera was going to be banned in the US or is it England? Not sure which one. I didn't know they were broadcasting in English either. And i think the 'patience' advice is right...We hear of very very little that's happening in the rest of the world on the current news channels. On the other hand we shouldn't get too caught up in this world remember :-)
Assalaam alaikumu

[acedoc]

Here it is at VDC...it is NOT for free ..you can watch it online for US$8 permonth


http://www.vdc.com/

Choose Channel 205 AJE (alJazeera english) Point from Br. Mabsoot and otehrs well taken..don't take wooden nickels from no one.
Listen to everyone but use your common-sense. I have been watching this Al Jazeera for past few weeks..Must say little diffrence from
CNN or Fox or ABC etc.

Just don't expect a very Islamic perscpective from them...they are more western or at least "wanna bes"

[talibulislam]

warner brother was investing in aljazera,in one lecture we heard that there 50% shares r own by warner brothers.now they r coming in english,we muslim need hope against bbc or cnn,what if that hope is building on 3rd party, which is also sponsor by old parties,so where we going 2 b at the end,going round & round in circle.may allah save our ummah from munafiqeen & mushrakeen ameen

[allmuslimsrequal]

I agree with Mahadiwarrior AND Mabsoot. I never trust any news broadcast anymore. But I would give anything to see some flipped sides of the coin.

On the news here in America- you NEVER see Arabs or Muslims in any realistic light. Everyday everyday everyday you hear 'Islamists' 'jihadists'
'islamic terror', ect...
The media here shows only what they want. They care little or nothing for Palestinian blood that is shed. They care little or nothing at all for the innocent Iraqi's, or for the innocent Muslims sold into US prisons. The news turns a blind eye to the suffering of any Arab nation.

The kidnapping of 1 Israeli soldier was sensationalized beyond belief. But you NEVER hear of ANY brutality done to the Palestinian people, or the illegal and unhumanitarian actions done to them day by day by day.

[Marwa17]

the media is our source of information today...sadly, they've abused that right...now we have to go and search for the news ourselves...we question the stories we are told...etc...it's sad

[Paki Idol]

Well...It is not being aired in Pakistan but still the Media I think, is doing a good job by instilling the right Islamic values and countering the propoganda of the West.

[SayangNZ]

No news channels or media outlets are unbiased. Depending on what country one is in, and whether it has a left wing, right wing, centre or religous government in power you will only hear what ruling party want you to hear.

That is what is so dangerous - people can be very brainwashed if they do not have access to different sources, especially the uneducated and illiterate who only have blind belief and through no fault of their own, cannot think outside the square because they do not know they are imprisoned in a square. As citizens of the free world it is our duty to seek the truth so that our world remains free.

Think North Korea - would you believe their television channel, oops - very few, if indeed any, have televisions. And as for internet access................ ! But they do have nuclear power.............. Scary, isn't it.

[Ahmed ibn Ibrahim]

No news channels or media outlets are unbiased. Depending on what country one is in, and whether it has a left wing, right wing, centre or religous government in power you will only hear what ruling party want you to hear.

That is what is so dangerous - people can be very brainwashed if they do not have access to different sources, especially the uneducated and illiterate who only have blind belief and through no fault of their own, cannot think outside the square because they do not know they are imprisoned in a square. As citizens of the free world it is our duty to seek the truth so that our world remains free.


... This is part of the reason why we participate here at TTI =) inshaAllah to be able to better think outside the box; to learn more about issues from the perspectives of thousands of different Muslims from a thousand different backgrounds. You'll never hear even AlJezeera discuss some of the things found here, as deeply as you'll find here, or have the oppourtunity to participate in the discussions yourself. Sure, we use alot of information from outside sources, but we also reference with the Sunnah and Qur'an as well as include Fatawas - and even then we also dissect issues from the human angle, too: Feelings, experiences, intuitions, examining disagreements.

It's a marvelous thing, I hope you can contribute more yourself, InshaAllah. The more Muslims seek and learn, I am confident that Allah SWT is more and more pleased. =) Take care

:wasalam: