I am a Christian, seriously looking at Islam..

[carol_au]

I am a Christian, seriously looking at Islam.. and may I say, it's the converstion stories at the moment that are most compelling.

I have long wondered how someone who is a Christian could give up their faith and follow the Prophet's example rather than Jesus' when nothing in my life shows me there is any issue with Jesus' words, or His example.. it has led me to God so far in my life and God willing this will never change.

I was directed here by one of your members, and I really have appreciated the one or two videos I have watched. I was immediately drawn to the story of Eric the Baptist almost Pastor who became a muslim, and whilst I appreciated the video.. I was most disappointed he only addressed the issue of the behaviour of christians and it not fitting in with his idea of what a follower of God should do. whilst this is compelling (and my reason for my interest in Islam), He never once talked about the faith he had prior to reversion.

I would love to hear from people who were strong Christians in faith as well as in practice who have reverted and find out why and how they did it.

Anyone who can show me a video or direct me to a member.. I would be most appreciative.

God bless and thanks .. not only to the member who directed me here, but to God for bringing me here at this time.

[zarah]

:salam2:

Welcome to the website Carol!:muslim_child:

:wasalam:

[ibn azem]

Hello Carol,

Welcome to the TTI forum, it is good that you have shown interest on Islam, we will be glad to be of any help for you and insha'Allah (God willing) we will try to provide you with any information you are interested in.

As to your interest to know about anyone who was strong in the Christian faith I've seen this video and think it would be of interest for you:
And anything you are interested for more we will be here and try to assist you.

Thank you.

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[Karima]

Carol,

Welcome here! Keep searching for God in all things. I did the same...My background is similar to yours...and coming to Islam is a journey for me...which never ends.

God made each of us, and all I can say is that I am thankful each day for my life on his earth...to enjoy His land, and the animals.....ducks, horses, deer, etc...which I am so fortunate to be able to feed....

God never has a 'deaf ear'...pray for the simplist things, for a start in your searching for Him more, as I did.

[carol_au]

Karima Salaam and many thanks for your welcome and your encourgement to pray at all times.. it's a timely and much appreciated reminder.

Thankyou also Ibn Adham for the video link. Godwilling I will watch it tomorrow .. it's very late here.

[rguyah]

I am a Christian, seriously looking at Islam.. and may I say, it's the converstion stories at the moment that are most compelling.

I have long wondered how someone who is a Christian could give up their faith and follow the Prophet's example rather than Jesus' when nothing in my life shows me there is any issue with Jesus' words, or His example.. it has led me to God so far in my life and God willing this will never change.

I was directed here by one of your members, and I really have appreciated the one or two videos I have watched. I was immediately drawn to the story of Eric the Baptist almost Pastor who became a muslim, and whilst I appreciated the video.. I was most disappointed he only addressed the issue of the behaviour of christians and it not fitting in with his idea of what a follower of God should do. whilst this is compelling (and my reason for my interest in Islam), He never once talked about the faith he had prior to reversion.

I would love to hear from people who were strong Christians in faith as well as in practice who have reverted and find out why and how they did it.

Anyone who can show me a video or direct me to a member.. I would be most appreciative.

God bless and thanks .. not only to the member who directed me here, but to God for bringing me here at this time.

Hello Carol,
I consider my time in Christianity as a time of devout worship. I attended Church Sunday morning, evening, and then Wednesday evenings. Sunday evenings and Wednesdays we did Bible study and competed statewide in Florida in Bible memorization and knowledge competitions... of which I was either 1st, 2nd, or 3rd place in all of the competitions. 4th once... I only mention this stuff to show my involvement in the 'learning' part of the religion. Besides that, I am the 9th child of 9 kids in my family. I was the only whom attended Church besides my mother and she went to a different Church than me. I went because I was a strong believer and stood up for what I believe in Christanity.

In 1996 I went to college and met Muslims. A religion I knew nothing about except for what they taught us in High School - that Muslims were terrorist (referring to the Palistinians. I had many heated conversations/arguments with my Muslim dorm mates... many! But I also had a open mind and took in what they were saying - this how you get taught - open the mind and learn. I went to some Friday lectures at the Masjid, starting reading the Quran, and stopped arguing and instead started to only listen. It was these Muslims whom pointed out to me in the Bible that I studied so much that Pork was not allowed. I immediately stopped eating pork while I was a Christian being taught Christianity by Muslims! I recalled the Church used to teach us that pork was Ok because Jesus made 'everything' Ok to eat. I learned it was a fallacy - a lie - a misguidance. It was pointed out to me that Jesus himself said he did not come to change the laws. This is something I knew but failed to understand until these Muslim dorm mates pointed it out to me. It was small things like this over 2 years of studying Islam that guided me to it. Just read with an open heart and open mind.

[zumurud]

Dear Carol,
I don't know of any videos that specifically address the topic of the difference between Islam and Christianity, but there is a book called "The Choice: Islam and Christianity" by Ahmad Deedat, which is very thorough.
There is also another sheikh called Yusuf Estes who used to be a Christian Preacher. I found a link with his biography: http://www.famousmuslims.com/Yusuf%20Estes.htm
If you type his name into a Google video or audio search I am sure you will find plenty of interesting talks to listen to.

I hope you find the answer to your questions.

[Submitter]

Hi Carol

Welcome to the website! I'm glad you decided to join us to learn more about our beautiful way of life.

I was also going to post videos and info about Yusuf Estes but my brothers and sisters have beat me to it mashallah :biggrin:

You may find the following videos useful too:

Similarities Between Islam and Christianity Part 1 (including the main differences and why they make sense)

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Similarities Between Islam and Christianity Part 2

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Is Bible God's Word? Part 1

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Is Bible God's Word? Part 2

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The people on this forum are all very friendly so please do not hesitate in asking any questions you may have :)

[Abu Sarah]

hiiiiiiiiiii,sister,Really u r wellcome here..Alhamduillah..

Here :Introductory Articles About Islam (http://www.turntoislam.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=11)..

sister ..u know Alhamduillah..i'm Sure ur truthseeker..

Many Wellcome to u sister...

May Allah direct All us to the right path..Ameen

and May Allah reward All us paradise and All us meet there...

peace,

[OmarTheFrench]

I am a Christian, seriously looking at Islam.. and may I say, it's the converstion stories at the moment that are most compelling.

I have long wondered how someone who is a Christian could give up their faith and follow the Prophet's example rather than Jesus'


We choose the path of God.:arabi1:

However welcome sister.

[Submitter]

I have long wondered how someone who is a Christian could give up their faith and follow the Prophet's example rather than Jesus'

Actually, they both conveyed the same message. Christians don't believe in Muhammad :saw:, but all Muslims believe that Jesus (pbuh) is a messenger of God (Allah) and is indeed one of the greatest messengers. All the messengers of Allah spread the message of the oneness of Allah.

As brother Omar says, we follow the law set out by Allah in the Qur'an and the best of Allah's creation to follow His law was Muhammad :saw: so we follow his example.

[NewMuslim]

Christians don't believe in Muhammad :saw:

They do, it's just that they think that he was either:

A) A nut

B) A fake

C) A conspiracist (working with Christians and/or Jews to create a whole new religion because he didn't like his choices)

To the Original Poster: I suggest you look at Yusuf Estes (the former Christian Minister-turned-Muslim, you've seen some his video in this thread) and at his website; islamtomorrow.com

[ambuscade]

Hello Carol,
I consider my time in Christianity as a time of devout worship. I attended Church Sunday morning, evening, and then Wednesday evenings. Sunday evenings and Wednesdays we did Bible study and competed statewide in Florida in Bible memorization and knowledge competitions... of which I was either 1st, 2nd, or 3rd place in all of the competitions. 4th once... I only mention this stuff to show my involvement in the 'learning' part of the religion. Besides that, I am the 9th child of 9 kids in my family. I was the only whom attended Church besides my mother and she went to a different Church than me. I went because I was a strong believer and stood up for what I believe in Christanity.

In 1996 I went to college and met Muslims. A religion I knew nothing about except for what they taught us in High School - that Muslims were terrorist (referring to the Palistinians. I had many heated conversations/arguments with my Muslim dorm mates... many! But I also had a open mind and took in what they were saying - this how you get taught - open the mind and learn. I went to some Friday lectures at the Masjid, starting reading the Quran, and stopped arguing and instead started to only listen. It was these Muslims whom pointed out to me in the Bible that I studied so much that Pork was not allowed. I immediately stopped eating pork while I was a Christian being taught Christianity by Muslims! I recalled the Church used to teach us that pork was Ok because Jesus made 'everything' Ok to eat. I learned it was a fallacy - a lie - a misguidance. It was pointed out to me that Jesus himself said he did not come to change the laws. This is something I knew but failed to understand until these Muslim dorm mates pointed it out to me. It was small things like this over 2 years of studying Islam that guided me to it. Just read with an open heart and open mind.

This is very curious indeed , if you are so knowledgable about Christian beliefs then how can you accept Islam as your religion?
I think thats what everyone wants to know who is not Muslim but grew up and understands Christianity or Christian theology.
You said that what Jesus said is a lie.
Do you have proof of this?
And if so where are the lies according to you? And how do you know they are lies?

These are important questions one must ask him or herself to make such a judgement.
Personally as a outsider of both Christianity and Islam I can clearly see the differences between the two faiths.
You can't both agree with the Bible and the Qu'ran.

[ambuscade]

The issue with pork according to the bible is not that it makes people bad, but eating wrong is what causes people to harm themselves.
This is what God teaches through the bible.
It's not what comes in but what comes out.

It's a very true teaching because there are so many wonderful people who eat pork on a daily basis.
Also bad people but generally they are good people.
Eating pork does not make them bad people.

Anyway i'm not Muslim so please bare with me here ;)

[Terah]

This is very curious indeed , if you are so knowledgable about Christian beliefs then how can you accept Islam as your religion?
I think thats what everyone wants to know who is not Muslim but grew up and understands Christianity or Christian theology.
You said that what Jesus said is a lie.
Do you have proof of this?
And if so where are the lies according to you? And how do you know they are lies?

These are important questions one must ask him or herself to make such a judgement.
Personally as a outsider of both Christianity and Islam I can clearly see the differences between the two faiths.
You can't both agree with the Bible and the Qu'ran.this person never said they were so knowledgable in theology, but rather a strong believer. what she or he wrote is their opinion. yet you come here as neither christian nor muslim and make what is, in my opinion, a harsh post against her.
why?

[ambuscade]

this person never said they were so knowledgable in theology, but rather a strong believer. what she or he wrote is their opinion. yet you come here as neither christian nor muslim and make what is, in my opinion, a harsh post against her.
why?

Well i think she is lying.
Or being untruthfull (?) at the least.
If she really knows Christianity she realises it doesn't fit with the Islamic beliefs.
There are so many differences that the two are not reconcilable with each other.
It's a matter of choosing to believe one or the other.
Or which you find more credible as the eternal word of God.

[Terah]

I suggest you look at Yusuf Estes (the former Christian Minister-turned-Muslim, you've seen some his video in this thread) and at his website; islamtomorrow.com i was very impressed by Yusuf Estes and the video that I watched. He is from the area I grew up in. I recognized all those areas he was speaking about. So that was kind of funny to me, kind of cool.

I have met several people who have become friends that are Muslim. And because I want to know more about them, I have begun reading and asking questions. I have believed since I was around 14 or 15 years old, that Allah, Buddah, and such were all different names for God. And that Muhammed and Jesus were prophets sent from God. I was raised Catholic but have always questioned everything. I went to both a Catholic and a Baptist church when I was in high school. Always seeking more information. I have read books on the Torah and tried to read on Buddhism.

And so here I am. Seeking more and more. I don't know if this is my path. But I thirst for knowledge. I hope I am not intruding.

[3assal]

:salam2:

topic will be closed until further notice


:wasalam:

[Mabsoot]

Well i think she is lying.
Or being untruthfull (?) at the least.
If she really knows Christianity she realises it doesn't fit with the Islamic beliefs.
There are so many differences that the two are not reconcilable with each other.
It's a matter of choosing to believe one or the other.
Or which you find more credible as the eternal word of God.

Hello,

this is a friendly forum, we do not accept people throwing accusations at other members.

An educated response is to prove a point without accusing people of lying. Therefore, please do not accuse people of lying.

We are not here to debate according to hotch-potch theology or twisted orientalism.

Muslims believe that every Prophet came with the same Message. The message of Islam is to worship Allah alone without associating any partner to him. This was the message of Jesus, Abraham and all the Prophets sent to mankind. This is what Islam is. It is not a new religion.

Muslims are not new either, it simply means a person who submits themselves to Allah, a person who believes in the oneness of God and worships him without associating any partner to him.

Therefore, following this understanding, you must realise that Muslims believe the followers of all Prophets before Muhammad were also Muslim. People who submitted to God's will.

Each people at every time were sent a Prophet. A Prophet who cleared the way to call for the worship of Allah alone. And the last and final Messenger was Muhammad :saw:, he was sent to all Mankind.

What attracts people to Islam is the Quran and its truth. So, the correct analysis of your original statement is to spin it on its head and say, it is the knowledge of Christianity and the thinking about its beliefs that actually attracts people to Islam. To say that people become Muslim because they are ignorant of their beliefs, such as Christianity is an arrogant and ill-informed assumption to make.

You said that what Jesus said is a lie.
Do you have proof of this?
And if so where are the lies according to you? And how do you know they are lies?

Secondly, Muslims do not believe Jesus lied, he was a Prophet of Allah, a noble and great man who Muslims love. Infact, we give him the greatest respect and love by accepting and knowing him just as he wanted people to. i.e by remembering him as a great Prophet and not as a God or someone who can answer our prayers. This was his message.

As the original poster pointed out, it is the Church that has constantly lied about Jesus and about "Christianity". For example, when the Christian Bishops made a meeting after being instructed by Constantine I in Nicae in 325AD. There they concocted the Trinity and their beliefs about God and Jesus. So, today you have Christians such as the Catholics who worship Jesus and Mary and believe that Jesus is God and God is Jesus and all sorts of beliefs. Beliefs that dont even make sense.

Anyway, i feel you should apologise to the other member for accusing her of lying, it was unfair.

We do have pretty strict rules here, and we do our best to avoid arguments and keep this website friendly.

thank you.

[Submitter]

There are so many differences that the two are not reconcilable with each other.

And yet there are so many similarities that it wouldn't be outrageous to claim they have common origins.

Go to page one of this thread and watch the video I posted, "Similarities Between Islam and Christianity". You may then begin to realise why we believe the other Abrahamic religions (Christianity and Judaism) have strayed from the prophets' original teachings, whereas Islam's teachings have remained pure and uncorrupted and reflect exactly what all the prophets of the past had been teaching, right from prophet Adam (as) to the last and final messenger of Allah, prophet Muhammad (pbuh).

[Abu Sarah]

This is very curious indeed , if you are so knowledgable about Christian beliefs then how can you accept Islam as your religion?
.

.......if u wanna why All us accept islam as our religion..

Because of..

islam is the religion of Allah



Surely the (true) religion with Allah is Islam, and those to whom the Book had been given did not show opposition but after knowledge had come to them, out of envy among themselves; and whoever disbelieves in the communications of Allah then surely Allah is quick in reckoning. (3 :19 )


islam is the religion accepted by Allah


And whoever desires a religion other than Islam, it shall not be accepted from him, and in the hereafter he shall be one of the losers. ( 3 :85)

Don't stop ..saying why...see : why islam ? (http://www.turntoislam.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1975)

Ahamduillah ,Islam continues to be successful in the developed world, and elsewhere, because its call is in accordance with the fitrah or natural inclinations of mankind, and it advocates the best of human values, such as tolerance, love, mercy, truthfulness and sincerity.

Islam educates people and lifts them up to righteous conduct, good manners and virtue. Its call is distinguished from others by its realism, balance and moderation. Islam pays due attention to both the soul and the body. It neither suppresses physical desires nor allows extravagance in this regard; it makes a distinction between the natural inclination to enjoy the pleasures of this world and forbidden desires that come under the heading of depravity and perversion.

People embrace Islam because they find security, comfort and peace in it, they see a cure for their problems in it, and through it they are able to get rid of their feelings of confusion, anxiety and loss.

Islam is the religion of the fitrah, the natural inclination or pattern on which Allaah has created mankind. For this reason, people of sound minds and upright inclinations embrace Islam, as Abu Hurayrah (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: “The Messenger of Allaah :saw: (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: ‘There is no child who is not born in a state of fitrah (i.e., Islam), then his parents make him into a Jew, a Christian or a Magian (Zoroastrian), just as animals produce whole animals (i.e., the animals are born perfect with no part of their bodies missing). Do you find any born with their ears cut off?’” Then Abu Hurayrah (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: “ ‘… Allaah’s handiwork according to the pattern on which He has made mankind: no change (let there be) in the work (wrought) by Allaah: that is the Standard Religion…’
[al-Room 30:30 – interpretation of the meaning – Yusuf Ali’s translation].”
(Reported by al-Bukhaari, 1359).



What is meant is that Allaah has created mankind with the potential to learn the truth, accept Tawheed (pure monotheism) and submit to Allaah. Their natural inclination is to learn Islam and love it, but a bad education, a kaafir (disbelieving) environment, their own whims and desires and the devils among jinn and mankind turn them away from the truth.

Mankind is basically inclined towards Tawheed (pure monotheism), as the Prophet :saw: (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) reported that his Lord (Allaah) said: “I created all my slaves as ‘hunafa’ (pure monetheists), but the devils turned them away from their religion.” (Reported by Muslim).

For this reason the one who becomes a Muslim after having been a disbeliever is described as having “reverted” to Islam, as this is more correct than saying that he “converted.” When Islam enters a country where there is no nationalism or great legacy of jaahiliyah (ignorance), it spreads quickly because of its strength and the small number of obstacles. You may also see that Islam is suitable for all people, educated and uneducated, male and female, old and young; everyone finds in it what he wants and needs. Those who become Muslim in developed countries realize what their country’s civilization and laws, which have been fabricated from men’s whims and desires, have done to them, and they realize the extent of the misery in which people in developed countries are living. They see how prevalent psychological illnesses, nervous breakdowns, insanity and suicides are, despite the technological advances and great number of discoveries and inventions and modern systems of management. This is because all of that is concerned only with the physical and the outward, but it neglects the inward and fails to nourish and nurture the heart and soul.

Allaah says of these people (interpretation of the meaning): “They know only the outside appearance of the life of the world, and they are heedless of the Hereafter.” [al-Room 30:7]

Islam will continue to succeed, with the permission of Allaah, so long as those who work for its sake are sincere and its followers adhere to it and believe in it, and apply its laws.

The fact that there are those who are not committed or who fall short will not prevent Islam from succeeding, with the permission of Allaah, and nothing can distort its beauty. Its light will not falter because some people abandon it or fail to adhere to it. What Islam has given humanity in the way of progress and civilization, and lifting them up from the darkness of oppression and enmity, is pride enough.

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You said that what Jesus said is a lie.
Do you have proof of this?
And if so where are the lies according to you? And how do you know they are lies?


<1st> With regard to Muslim belief concerning jesus (peace be upon him), it is based on the evidence of the Qur’aan and Sunnah. jesus ‘Eesa (Jesus) – (peace be upon him) – is one of the greatest Messengers. Muslims believe that ‘Eesa (peace be upon him) was taken up by Allaah into heaven alive, and that he was neither crucified nor killed. He will remain alive until the onset of the Hour approaches, then he will descend to earth and will kill the Dajjaal, break the cross and kill the pigs, and he will rule according to Islamic sharee’ah, then he will die – peace be upon him – like all other humans.

Imam Abu Muhammad ‘Abd al-Haqq ibn ‘Atiyah (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:

The ummah is unanimously agreed on what is stated in the mutawaatir hadeeth that ‘Eesa (peace be upon him) is alive in heaven, and he will descend at the end of time and will kill the pigs, break the cross and kill the Dajjaal; justice will prevail and he will support this nation – the nation of Muhammad – and it will prevail as a result, and he will perform pilgrimage to the Ka’bah, doing Hajj and ‘Umrah, then Allaah will cause him to die.

Al-Muharrar al-Wajeez (3/143)

Al-Safaareeni (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:
The ummah is unanimously agreed that he will descend and none of those who follow sharee’ah disagreed with that. Rather it was denied by the philosophers and heretics whose dissent is of no importance. There is consensus among the ummah that he will descend and will rule according to the sharee’ah of Muhammad:saw: (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). No new law will be revealed when he descends from heaven.
Lawaami’ al-Anwaar al-Bahiyyah (2/94, 95)


u should keep in ur mind that : Muslim belive in All Prophets ..

Allah wisdom decreed that Adam (peace be upon him) should be the father of mankind, and His wisdom, mercy and justice decreed that from among Adam’s progeny He should select an elite of Messengers and Prophets – may peace and blessings be upon them and upon our Prophet. Among those whom He chose and preferred over others were the Messengers of strong will ,
namely, Muhammad, Ibraaheem, Nooh, Moosa and ‘Eesaa ibn Maryam, may the best of blessings and peace be upon them. And He chose and favoured above them all their leader, the final Messenger, our Prophet Muhammad ibn ‘Abd-Allaah :saw:(peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). He is indeed the leader of the sons of Adam, with no boast.

He will carry the banner and will be granted the power of intercession [on the Day of Resurrection].

He is the one who will attain al-maqaam al-mahmood (the Praised Position) in Paradise, which will be given to one person only, and that person will be our Prophet :saw: (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him).

Hence Allaah took the covenant and pledge from all the Prophets that if Muhammad :saw: (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) was sent during the lifetime of any one of them, they would be obliged to follow him :saw: (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), to leave behind what they had brought and follow what our Prophet :saw: (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) brought.

As Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“And (remember) when Allaah took the Covenant of the Prophets, saying: ‘Take whatever I gave you from the Book and Hikmah (understanding of the Laws of Allaah), and afterwards there will come to you a Messenger (Muhammad) confirming what is with you; you must, then, believe in him and help him.’ Allaah said: ‘Do you agree (to it) and will you take up My Covenant (which I conclude with you)?’ They said: ‘We agree.’ He said: ‘Then bear witness; and I am with you among the witnesses (for this).’ Then whoever turns away after this, they are the Faasiqoon (rebellious: those who turn away from Allaah’s obedience)”
[Aal-Imraan 3:81-82]

The Prophet :saw: (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said to ‘Umar ibn al-Khattaab (may Allaah be pleased with him): “By Allaah, if my brother Moosa were alive, he would have no choice but to follow me.”

And when the Messiah ‘Eesaa ibn Maryam (peace be upon him) comes down at the end of time, he will come to rule in accordance with the sharee’ah of Muhammad :saw: (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), and he will follow him :saw:(peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him).

All of the above refers to their status before Allaah. With regard to their religion, it is one religion, for they all called people to believe in One God, Allaah (Tawheed) and to devote worship sincerely to Him Alone. With regard to laws, each of them had his own law which was for his people alone.

Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“To each among you, We have prescribed a law and a clear way”
[al-Maa’idah 5:48]

. But the way (sharee’ah) of our Prophet Muhammad :saw: (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) is the most perfect, the best, the most complete and the most beloved to Allaah; it abrogates all laws that came before it. Undoubtedly the Prophets differ in status, and they are at varying levels. The best of them, as stated above, are the five Messengers of strong will (Uloo’l-‘Azm), and the best of them all is the Seal of the Prophets, Muhammad :saw: (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him).

[U]the prophet Muhammed :saw:is undoubtedly the best of them all, for he led them in prayer in Bayt al-Maqdis (Jerusalem) on the night of the Israa’. He will be the leader of the sons of Adam on the Day of Resurrection, and he is the only one among all the Messengers who will be granted the power of intercession on that Day. He :saw: (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) is the one who said: “From among the sons of Adam, Allaah chose Quraysh; from among Quraysh He chose Kinaanah; from among Kinaanah He chose Bani Haashim; and from among Bani Haashim He chose me.” He :saw: (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) is the Chosen One (al-Mustafaa) from among all of mankind.


Personally as a outsider of both Christianity and Islam I can clearly see the differences between the two faiths.

u wellcome..feel free to show us..

...May i could help u... to correct some Misconceptions About Islam

Any way see : Christ in Islam (http://www.turntoislam.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2200)


You can't both agree with the Bible and the Qu'ran


On the Virtues and Excellence of the Qur'aan (http://www.turntoislam.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1204)

Is The Bible God's Word? (http://www.turntoislam.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2202)

The Difference Between the Bible and the Quran (http://www.turntoislam.com/forum/showthread.php?t=457&highlight=jesus)

peace

[Noor to shine]

Peace to you carol I pray that God(Allah) guides us all : as a start Islam teaches to worship none but the creator (be sincere):

This is a very informative site about Islam :


http://www.sultan.org/

[ambuscade]

And yet there are so many similarities that it wouldn't be outrageous to claim they have common origins.

Go to page one of this thread and watch the video I posted, "Similarities Between Islam and Christianity". You may then begin to realise why we believe the other Abrahamic religions (Christianity and Judaism) have strayed from the prophets' original teachings, whereas Islam's teachings have remained pure and uncorrupted and reflect exactly what all the prophets of the past had been teaching, right from prophet Adam (as) to the last and final messenger of Allah, prophet Muhammad (pbuh).

Mabsoot & Submitter thats why i love this site it has a lot of information on Islam. I haven't seen all of it but i will take a look for sure. ;)
I also didn't mean to cause offence I think the woman was wrong in how she explained her religious devotion to Christian teachings. This cannot be so otherwise you can't believe in Islam.
There has to be something in you already why you believe different , and it doesn't mean the existence of God but the teachings and the message that God gave mankind through the thousands of years of human existence.
The purpose of being and the way in which He wants us all to behave.
It's here where Islam and Christianity part ways not in the believe that there is One God who revealed himself to mankind.

Anyway i will go back to reading some of the links you provide it's very interesting.

[ambuscade]

islamicfajr do you also have links about the difference between Shia and Sunni Muslims?
Because there is a lot of difference between the two they accept some sunni teachings but disregard others or believe them to be false.
A lot of the prophetic traditions are different , it's as if they do not trust some of the statements made by people who witnessed Muhammed teachings.

Thanks.

[Abu Sarah]

Dear Brother..

<1st> Keep in ur mind there are many ppls under cover of islam but not
Practice the teachings of Islam..

Here..The Aqeedah of Ahlis-Sunnah wal Jamaa'ah (http://www.turntoislam.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2521)

More: Fundamental Beliefs in Islam Tawheed and Aqeedah (http://www.turntoislam.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=15)




peace,

[Abu Sarah]

Hello ...

Wellcome agian...about the Bible..i think sister / carol_au..get my reply..there.. :)..

The Gospels that are extant nowadays were written after the time of ‘Eesa (peace be upon him) and have been tampered with a great deal

The first issue is the Gospel that was revealed from the Lord of the Worlds to the Prophet of Allaah ‘Eesa (peace be upon him). Belief that Allaah revealed a Book to His Prophet ‘Eesa and that the name of this book was the Gospel (Injeel), are basic principles of faith that we must believe in.
Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“The Messenger (Muhammad) believes in what has been sent down to him from his Lord, and (so do) the believers. Each one believes in Allaah, His Angels, His Books, and His Messengers. (They say,) ‘We make no distinction between one another of His Messengers’ — and they say, ‘We hear, and we obey. (We seek) Your forgiveness, our Lord, and to You is the return (of all)’”
[al-Baqarah 2:285]
The Prophet :saw:(peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said to Jibreel, when he asked him about faith, as mentioned in the well-known hadeeth: “Faith means to believe in Allaah, His angels, His books, His messengers, the Last Day, and to believe in His divine will and decree, both good and bad.” (Agreed upon).
Disbelieving in that or doubting it is misguidance and kufr or disbelief in Allaah.
Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“O you who believe! Believe in Allaah, and His Messenger (Muhammad), and the Book (the Qur’aan) which He has sent down to His Messenger, and the Scripture which He sent down to those before (him); and whosoever disbelieves in Allaah, His Angels, His Books, His Messengers, and the Last Day, then indeed he has strayed far away.
137. Verily, those who believe, then disbelieve, then believe (again), and (again) disbelieve, and go on increasing in disbelief; Allaah will not forgive them, nor guide them on the (right) way”
[al-Nisa’ 4:136-137]
“Verily, those who disbelieve in Allaah and His Messengers and wish to make distinction between Allaah and His Messengers (by believing in Allaah and disbelieving in His Messengers) saying, “We believe in some but reject others,” and wish to adopt a way in between.
151. They are in truth disbelievers. And We have prepared for the disbelievers a humiliating torment”
[al-Nisa’ 4:150-151]
The second issue is the Gospel or, more precisely, the Gospels that the Christians have today. Although one of the basic principles of our faith is to believe in the Gospel that was revealed to ‘Eesa, we also believe that there is no longer any book that remained as it was revealed by Allaah, neither the Gospel nor anything else, apart from the Qur’aan. Even the Christians themselves do not believe that the books that they have before them were revealed in that form from God, nor do they claim that the Messiah wrote the Gospel or at least that it was written during his lifetime.
Imam Ibn Hazm (may Allaah have mercy on him) says in al-Fasl fi’l-Milal (2/2):
We do not need to try hard to prove that the Gospels and all the books of the Christians did not come from God or from the Messiah (peace be upon him), as we needed to do with regard to the Torah and the books attributed to the Prophets that the Jews have, because the Jews claim that the Torah that they have was revealed from God to Moosa, so we needed to establish proof that this claim of theirs is false. With regard to the Christians, they have taken care of the issue themselves, because they do not believe that the Gospels were revealed from God to the Messiah, or that the Messiah brought them, rather all of them from first to last, peasants and kings, Nestorians, Jacobites, Maronites and Orthodox are all agreed that there are four historical accounts written by four known men at different times. The first of them is the account written by Matthew the Levite who was a disciple of the Messiah, nine years after the Messiah was taken up into heaven. He wrote it in Hebrew in Judaea in Palestine, and it filled approximately twenty-eight pages in a medium-sized script. The next account was written by Mark, a disciple of Simon ben Yuna, who was called Peter, twenty-two years after the Messiah was taken up into heaven. He wrote it in Greek in Antioch in the land of the Byzantines. They say that the Simon mentioned is the one who wrote it, then he erased his name from the beginning of it and attributed it to his disciple Mark. It filled twenty-four pages written in a medium-sized script. This Simon was a disciple of the Messiah. The third account written was that of Luke, a physician of Antioch who was also a disciple of Simon Peter. He wrote it in Greek after Mark had written his account, and is similar in length to the Gospel of Matthew. The fourth account was written by John the son of Zebedee, another disciple of the Messiah, sixty-odd years after the Messiah has been taken up into heaven. He wrote it in Greek, and it filled twenty-four pages in a medium-sized script. End quote.
Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah said in al-Jawaab al-Saheeh (3:21):
With regard to the Gospels that the Christians have, there are four Gospels, Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. They are agreed that Luke and Mark did not see the Messiah, rather he was seen by Matthew and John. These four accounts which they call the Gospel, and they call each one of them a Gospel, were written by these men after the Messiah had been taken up into heaven. They did not say that they are the word of God or that the Messiah conveyed them from God, rather they narrated some of the words of the Messiah and some of his deeds and miracles. End quote.
Moreover, these books which were written after the time of the Messiah did not remain in their original form. The original versions were lost long ago. Ibn Hazm said:
With regard to the Christians, there is no dispute among them or anyone else that only one hundred and twenty men believed in the Messiah during his lifetime… and all of those who believed in him concealed themselves and were afraid during his lifetime and afterwards; they called people to his religion in secret and none of them disclosed himself or practised his religion openly, because any of them who was caught was executed.
They continued in this manner, not showing themselves at all, and they had no place where they were safe for three hundred years after the Messiah was taken up into heaven.
During this time, the Gospel that had been revealed from Allaah disappeared, apart from a few verses which Allaah preserved as proof against them and as a rebuke to them, as we have mentioned. Then when the Emperor Constantine became a Christian, then the Christians prevailed and started to practise their religion openly and assemble in safety.
If a religion is like this, with its followers practicing it in secret and living in constant fear of the sword, it is impossible for things to be transmitted soundly via a continuous chain of narrators and its followers cannot protect it or prevent it from being distorted.
End quote. Al-Fasl, 2/4-5.
In addition to this huge disruption in the chain of transmission of their books, which lasted for two centuries, these books did not remain in the languages in which they were originally written, rather they were translated, more than once, by people whose level of knowledge and honesty is unknown. The contradictions in these books and their shortcomings are among the strongest evidence that they have been distorted and that they are not the Gospel (Injeel) that Allaah revealed to His slave and Messenger ‘Eesa (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). Allaah indeed spoke the truth when He said (interpretation of the meaning):
“Had it been from other than Allaah, they would surely, have found therein many a contradiction”
[al-Nisa’ 4:82].

peace,
islamicfajr

[Hannah123]

I just reverted to Islam not even 2 months ago. I was very religious in my time as a christian, but i never felt as good about my faith as i do now. Islam is not just a religion to me its a way of life. Its on my mind all the time and its such a peaceful feeling, compared to being stressed all the time and letting it overtake me. We both know there is only one God. As a muslim i know things more though. Just open your mind, your eyes your senses. Let yourself feel and hear things in a different light and you will get it. Read as much as you can do as much research as you can. Its so exciting to read about Islam and embrace the one True Religion from Allah. If you need anything, feel free to ask.
Hannah

[Joslyn]

I'm in the same boat as you, Carol. :) I can't say exactly what has drawn me to Islam, but I can see traces of it throughout my life. While I too find the conversion/reversion stories of people interesting, what compells me the most (oddly, perhaps) is the modest dress of Muslim women. I consider myself to be a modest women in the western culture at least. I only wear skirts and dresses, and modestly cut ones at that. Yet, I love the hijab Muslim women wear-- thier scarfs and dresses, or some of the other styles. One thing I notice immediatley about Muslim is thier femininity and gentleness. Has anyone else noticed this?

Anyhow, I think I'm at the point where I'd be interested in visiting a Mosque. Although I don't have the proper attire... I'll try to find something on Ebay. :) I wonder, would a Mosque let me--a non Muslim-- visit?

Where are you in your search, Carol?

~ Joslyn ~

:blackhijab:

[alhamdulillah]

Bismillah,

Hello...


I wonder, would a Mosque let me--a non Muslim-- visit?

~ Joslyn ~

:blackhijab:

for sure.....why wouldnt they? Alhamdulillah....ofcourse they would, just go there and grab some info Insha'Allah.

If you want, you can call them before hand and tell them you are interested in Islam and would like to visit the Masjid (Mosque).......dont worry, people are nice in the Mosque....you'll see the beauty of Islam Insha'Allah.....the unity the love Masha'Allah......after all, Islam shows UNITY through DIVERSITY and thats something i admire.....All Praise is Due to Allah Alone!

May Allah guide us all to that which pleases Him the most and may He Subhana hu wa ta'aala, guide us and keep us guided, Ameen Ya Rabb'al Alamin!

may peace be upon you :)

[samiha]

Anyhow, I think I'm at the point where I'd be interested in visiting a Mosque. Although I don't have the proper attire... I'll try to find something on Ebay. :) I wonder, would a Mosque let me--a non Muslim-- visit?

~ Joslyn ~

:blackhijab:

Not only would they let you visit, they would WANT you to visit. Mosques are a beautiful place, you definetly should go visit one!

Oh and by the way, if you don't know where a mosque is, you could type it in here....

http://www.islamicfinder.org/locate.php?ziporcity=&start=0&state=&method=1

they give good results and many times even show the mosque's website (IN U.S. and Canada)

[Submitter]

Hi Joslyn

I wonder, would a Mosque let me--a non Muslim-- visit?

Absolutely they would. People from all faiths and backgrounds are welcome if they have a sincere intention to learn more about Islam.

Are you in the UK Joslyn? What you could do is call the mosque that you wish to visit and arrange a time when a sister can show you around and answer any of your queries.

There are people from all over the world on this forum, so where ever you live I'm sure someone can help you :)

[Joslyn]

Thanks! Yes, I do know where one is located... In fact, if I were to put on my walking shoes, I might even be able to hike there. It's only about a mile or so. My husband ususually has our car. :)

[Mabsoot]

Thanks! Yes, I do know where one is located... In fact, if I were to put on my walking shoes, I might even be able to hike there. It's only about a mile or so. My husband ususually has our car. :)

Hi, Joslyn i recommend you visit Regents Park Mosque in London, it has good facilities for Non-Muslims and they often have many come visit.

if you have any questions dont hesitate to ask

[OmarTheFrench]

See a diversity of people be unite in a Prayer just for Allah its beautiful thing:arabi1:

[duran]

Hey WELCOME TO turntoislam.com

May Allah show u the guidance...ameen:)

[carol_au]

Well i think she is lying.
Or being untruthfull (?) at the least.
If she really knows Christianity she realises it doesn't fit with the Islamic beliefs.
There are so many differences that the two are not reconcilable with each other.
It's a matter of choosing to believe one or the other.
Or which you find more credible as the eternal word of God.

I just want to say, that I have been a Christian.. since 1976. I have many issues with Islam that I am working through and may never agree with, but I absolutely reject the concept that Christianity does not fit with Islamic beliefs.

Anyone who has done comparative religion study will know that infact the simliarities between the two faiths are so close .. the sticking point is the place of Jesus versus the place of Muhammad as the example in worship, and the place of Jesus as a Prophet or as God.

If you read the bible you will see the required lifestyle of a Muslim is there in almost total.. I can fully appreciate how people can explore one or the other and choose to convert to the other.

[rguyah]

I just want to say, that I have been a Christian.. since 1976. I have many issues with Islam that I am working through and may never agree with, but I absolutely reject the concept that Christianity does not fit with Islamic beliefs.

Anyone who has done comparative religion study will know that infact the simliarities between the two faiths are so close .. the sticking point is the place of Jesus versus the place of Muhammad as the example in worship, and the place of Jesus as a Prophet or as God.

If you read the bible you will see the required lifestyle of a Muslim is there in almost total.. I can fully appreciate how people can explore one or the other and choose to convert to the other.

I was born into Christianity... back in 1977. Reverted to Islam in 1999. "the sticking point is the place of Jesus versus the place of Muhammad as the example in worship, and the place of Jesus as a Prophet or as God." Just to be clear, Muslims do not in anyway worship Muhammed. Many Christians if not most do worship Jesus. The underlying doctrine of the Jewish religion, Christianity, and Islam is that there is 1 creator and everything else that exist are among his creation - except in light of his Word which is recording in Holy books, particularly the Quran. The Quran in Arabic consist of the literal words of the Creator. Regarding reading the Bible, it was what I learned as a Christian that made it easy for me to revert to Islam.

I also disagree with ambuscade. You are not correct on this. The Torah, Bible, and Quran have more parallels than less. They are steps upon each other. Each goes furthur to explain God's will for us. If the Quran was never revealed, we would have to follow Christianity. Irregardless of the abnormalities of much of the man made messages that rittle the Gospels. It was incumbant on the Jews to accept Christianity and if they had when Jesus was there, the Bible would be even clearer to this day. They didn't and now many Christians reject the Quran as the Jews rejected the Bible. It's the 'me first' mentality. There has to be difference from the Torah to the Bible to the Quran or there wouldn't be any use in having another Holy book. Other Prophets came specifically for a group of people - generally the tribe of Israel. Prophet Muhammed came for all people and Allah sent him His Words to convey to all of mankind. Once Christians and Jews recognize this then they will follow as Jesus told them to follow the one whom will come after him.

[Karima]

Very well said.

I also disagree with ambuscade. You are not correct on this. The Torah, Bible, and Quran have more parallels than less. They are steps upon each other. Each goes furthur to explain God's will for us. If the Quran was never revealed, we would have to follow Christianity. Irregardless of the abnormalities of much of the man made messages that rittle the Gospels. It was incumbant on the Jews to accept Christianity and if they had when Jesus was there, the Bible would be even clearer to this day. They didn't and now many Christians reject the Quran as the Jews rejected the Bible. It's the 'me first' mentality. There has to be difference from the Torah to the Bible to the Quran or there wouldn't be any use in having another Holy book. Other Prophets came specifically for a group of people - generally the tribe of Israel. Prophet Muhammed came for all people and Allah sent him His Words to convey to all of mankind. Once Christians and Jews recognize this then they will follow as Jesus told them to follow the one whom will come after him.

May Allah guide us all to appreciating and thanking him for our life that we willed for us.
:dishes:

[mosabaig]

Welcom to this site Sis,

Allah our creater understands all goes on within our hearts, and as I learnt he grants what is best for us when we turn to him for guidance...just keep praying.

And seek the knowledge to find out to get close to Allah ( there is none to worshipped other then him alone, he is the one every prophet worshipped )

[abdullateefwt]

Islam and Christianity and Judaism are indeed related and any muslim who understands his/her belief will readily recognize this. The main difference is s the understanding that the monotheistic revelations to mankind are continuous w/o differing in belief, tho' somewhat in practices. Muslims realize that all religion starts w/ the submission (al islam) as opposed to identifying the faith with a personality or tribe. God stands alone in worship and does not need the support of any oif his creation tio justify His existence or majesty. It is mankind who has to worship Allah for its own benefit. In other words the current renditions of Christianity and Judaism are deviations from the Islam taught by Jesus, Moses, David et al in their eras. Therefore the current rendition in the Qur'an, exemplified by the practice of Muhammad (prayers and peace be on him) is the one revealed to all mankind as a final testament to the truth of One Allah, without partners until the end of this creation. Some testament from Allah concerning this.

We gave Moses the Book and followed him up with a succession of apostles; We gave Jesus the son of Mary Clear (Signs) and strengthened him with the holy spirit. Is it that whenever there comes to you an apostle with what ye yourselves desire not, ye are puffed up with pride?- Some ye called impostors, and others ye slay!
( سورة البقرة , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #87)

(2) Say ye: "We believe in Allah, and the revelation given to us, and to Abraham, Isma'il, Isaac, Jacob, and the Tribes, and that given to Moses and Jesus, and that given to (all) prophets from their Lord: We make no difference between one and another of them: And we bow to Allah (in Islam)."
( سورة البقرة , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #136)

(12) O People of the Book! Commit no excesses in your religion: Nor say of Allah aught but the truth. Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) an apostle of Allah, and His Word, which He bestowed on Mary, and a spirit proceeding from Him: so believe in Allah and His apostles. Say not "Trinity" : desist: it will be better for you: for Allah is one Allah. Glory be to Him: (far exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belong all things in the heavens and on earth. And enough is Allah as a Disposer of affairs.
( سورة النساء , An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #171)

(1) And this was the legacy that Abraham left to his sons, and so did Jacob; "Oh my sons! Allah hath chosen the Faith for you; then die not except in the Faith of Islam."
( سورة البقرة , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #132)

The Religion before Allah is Islam (submission to His Will): Nor did the People of the Book dissent therefrom except through envy of each other, after knowledge had come to them. But if any deny the Signs of Allah, Allah is swift in calling to account.
( سورة آل عمران , Aal-e-Imran, Chapter #3, Verse #19)

(6) Abraham was not a Jew nor yet a Christian; but he was true in Faith, and bowed his will to Allah.s (Which is Islam), and he joined not gods with Allah.
( سورة آل عمران , Aal-e-Imran, Chapter #3, Verse #67)

[joepierre]

Carol,
Thanks for posting.
I have a really good book I would like to send you.
If you send your address to #####I will send it.
I hope this is not too confronting.
JP

[Noor to shine]

Peace to you and all:
tallking about myself I find a clear answer in Quran who is my creator and what is his perfect attributes. I think that the other books introduce a concept that mix the attributes of the creator with the attributes of creatures While Quran is very strict:

112:1 SAY: "He is the One God:
112:2 "God the Eternal, the Uncaused Cause of All Being
112:3 "He begets not, and neither is He begotten;
112:4 "and there is nothing that could be compared with Him.

Quran

6:103 No human vision can encompass Him, whereas He encompasses all human vision: for He alone is unfathomable, all-aware.

Quran

Quran teaches man to cancell any image or idol from mind to have a pure certain faith.

with best wishes












i was very impressed by Yusuf Estes and the video that I watched. He is from the area I grew up in. I recognized all those areas he was speaking about. So that was kind of funny to me, kind of cool.

I have met several people who have become friends that are Muslim. And because I want to know more about them, I have begun reading and asking questions. I have believed since I was around 14 or 15 years old, that Allah, Buddah, and such were all different names for God. And that Muhammed and Jesus were prophets sent from God. I was raised Catholic but have always questioned everything. I went to both a Catholic and a Baptist church when I was in high school. Always seeking more information. I have read books on the Torah and tried to read on Buddhism.

And so here I am. Seeking more and more. I don't know if this is my path. But I thirst for knowledge. I hope I am not intruding.

[msameer]

Dear Sister,

Please visit this link for the stories or many christians converted to Islam including preachers and priests. Special attention to Dr. Jerald F Dirks, His converstion is also very interesting.

http://thetruereligion.org/modules/xfsection/

[acedoc]

Quran (22:17): Surely those who believe and those who are Jews and the Sabeans and the Christians and the Magians and those who associate (others with Allah)-- surely Allah will decide between them on the day of resurrection; surely Allah is a witness over all things.

Quran (2:135 ): They say: "Become Jews or Christians if ye would be guided (To salvation)." Say you: "No! (I would rather) the Religion of Abraham the True, and he joined not gods with Allah."


Quran(9:30-31) The Jews call 'Uzair a son of Allah, and the Christians call Christ the son of Allah. That is a saying from their mouth; (in this) they but imitate what the unbelievers of old used to say. Allah's curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth! They take their priests and their anchorites to be their lords in derogation of Allah, and (they take as their Lord) Christ the son of Mary; yet they were commanded to worship but One Allah: there is no god but He. Praise and glory to Him (Allah): (Far is He) from having the partners they associate (with Him).

[Basicofislam]

:salam2: Dear sister i say no one can open your eyes if Allah wills not. So till he does not will you will keep having these feelings and u wont be able to understand why you should follow Muhammad SAW. See both are messengers of God. But there is a reason why you should follow Muhammad S.A.W. See every prophet who came in the past came for that period until the next prophet came. Like before Jesus pbuh was Moses pbuh. And if you were born before Muhammad SAW was born your duty was to follow Jesus pbuh. But God said that Muhammad is the last prophet.So whoever is born after he came comes under the Ummmah of Muhammad S.A.W. Yes there was no difference in the beliefs of the two prophets. But Bible is not Jesus pbuh words. It was written 100 years after the death of Jesus Pbuh. Infact the people who wrote the bible were not even the followers of Jesus. I dont say that everything in the bible is wrong. NO it is not but it has been corrupted by humans. Thats why you find a 100 different versions. The Quran came from God and it is the word of our Lord. You will find that there is only one Quran. Yes you will find translations in different languages but the Quran remains the way it was told to the prophet 1400 yrs back. One does not say dont follow Jesus pbuh. For us muslims every prophet is perfect , be it Abraham, Noah, Moses, Jesus, or the last prophet. They all taught the same thing that there is only one God and he is the most powerful. He has no children or wife. He is eternal.And that we all are supposed to only pray to him. OK i feel since you want to follow Jesus. Please read this book called this book called " WHAT DID JESUS REALLY SAY" by Mishaal ibn Abdullah. Also read the gospel of Barnabas. Then read the quran. May Allah guide you .:hijabi:

[Tahar]

Hi! There is nothing wrong with following the great example of Jesus Christ (peace be upon him.) Muslims consider him a great prophet and believe in his message. It is a prerequisite for us Muslims to believe in the message of all God's messengers and prophets that came before Mohammed (pbub) including Abraham, Moses, and Jesus christ. But you have to realize that Islam is God's third and final testament.

In the Bible, Jesus told his followers that he must go so that the "comforter", "the spirit of truth" can come and guide us. He prophesied the coming of Mohammed (pbuh), Mohammed was nicknamed "alamin" or the spirit of truth even before prophethood . And true to the prophesy, Mohammed has brought us complete guidance about every little detail in our life. He gave us the manual to life: The Quran and "Hadiths."

The Quran is truly the word of God reveled to Mohammed through angel Gabriel. In the Bible you will find a reference to a dialogue between God and Moses informing him of Mohammed, a prophet and leader like Moses "like unto thee", and the Quran which is God's "words in his mouth" (the mouth of Mohammed (pbuh)):

"I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and I will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him." Deut.18:18.

Sister Carole, you are on an important journey. Take your time, research and discover. With the grace of God, you will eventually find the right path.

[Patricia(Aisha)]

Assalamu Aleikum to all

May Allah guide us all in the right pad.

I would like to leave here my opinion on this "must" discussed subject.

I was brought up under Cristian belief. I even went to the church to learn the religion, when I was about 5 or 6 years old. But me and my friend always try to run away from the priest and skip the classes.

So you can understand that from early age I did not follow the Cristian religion at all.

I convert to Islam in August 2004, and believe me it was not because I was ignorant in my beliefs, but because I start to see the beauty and the truth of Islam.

I married a muslim man and apart from what everybody thinks including my father, I did not convert because of him. But in part I have to "blame" him as it was because of marrying him that I start to follow the religion from close.

I use to seat down in my bed and watch him pray and tears come from my eyes. It is beautiful the devotion of muslims towards the religion.

I use to work next door to an Islamic book shop and I met the girl (Umber) who use to work there and today she's my close friend Alhamdulillah. I start to question her about everything and let me tell you she was very patient with me!! With her help and my husband's constant questions if it was really what I wanted to do in my life ( He did question me many times if I was doing this for him or because I really believe in Islam) I did convert ot Islam.

Since then I'm such a better person with the help and guidance of Allah. So many good things happen to me since I convert. I did have so many proves that Allah listens my Du'as. And I hope Allah will give me time and a long life in order for me to become a better muslim.

It was just in this religion that I found that muslims are really close (Really close brothers). Everytime I cross a Muslim sister in the street we always say Assalamu Aleikum to each other.It makes my day!! I never saw this kind of aproach from any other religion belief.

And thank you Mas
The fact you are in the mosque praying and you don't know who's next to you if the most rich person or the mot poor person in the world because in the house of Allah everybody are equal. No matter the status of your life.

The story of the Prophet Mohammad (SAWS) made me cry blood. It will not born again a men like him that's why we should FOLLOW him and his footstep not worship him. Worship just Allah.

I read in a book that an American writter said once: - To change this world it had to come another men like Mohammad (SAWS).

If I continue this will give a story for a book...

And Thank you Mabsoot for making the point that this is a friendly website. I did not like the aproach of Ambuscade either.

P.S - A final note on why Islam... An American lady after th 11 of September were she lost many of her family members, pass trough hard times in her life. Diforced from her husband, with no work and with two daughter to feed she went to a local Sinagogue ( I think is like that they call the jews pray house) to ask for help as she was from Jews descendency. Her father was Jew. Their answer to her cry for help was that she was not even a "true" Jew so why should they help her. She felt her world fall apart. She went to a local mosque and ask for help. She was received with open harms and the Imam even made a "Collection" to raise money to help her. They manage to have enough money to pay her rent for some month he Utility bill and so on... They din't even quesation her what was her religion. This Lady is today a Muslim (MashaAllah), and sh'e trying to raise her daughters to follow the right pad. InchaAllah she will make it.

Wassalam

Aisha

[mahussain3]

Muslim Character


We can summarize the teachings of Islam about the Muslim character succinctly in this form:

Be truthful in everything, don’t lie.

Be sincere and straightforward, don’t be hypocritical.

Be honest, don’t be corrupt.

Be humble, don’t be boastful.
Be moderate, don’t be excessive.
Be reserved, don’t be garrulous.

Be soft-spoken, don’t be loud.
Be refined and gentle in speech, don’t cure and use foul language.

Be loving and solicitous to others, don’t be unmindful of them.

Be considerate and compassionate, don’t be harsh.

Be polite and respectful to people, don’t be insulting or disrespectful.

Be generous and charitable, don’t be selfish and miserly.

Be good natured and forgiving, don’t be bitter and resentful.

Share and be content with what Allah has given you, don’t be greedy.

Be cheerful and pleasant, don’t be irritable and morose.

Muslims should be loving to each other

Be chaste and pure, don’t be lustful.

Be alert and aware of the world around you, don’t be absent-minded.

Be dignified and decent, don’t be graceless.

Be optimistic and hopeful, don’t be cynical or pessimistic.

Be confident and have deep faith, don’t be doubtful and wavering.

Be spiritually oriented and not materialistic.

Be confident of the mercy of Allah, don’t be despairing and lose heart.

Be diligent and vigilant of your duties, don’t be negligent.
Be thankful to Allah and constantly pray to Him, don’t be forgetful of His innumerable blessings.

[Albint_Almuslima]

AsalamAlakum,

Welcome to TTI,

I'm glad to hear that u want 2 learn more about Islam.


It’s nice to have u join this lovely community.

Insha Allah u benefit from us as we from u.

Enjoy ur stay Insha Allah,

If u have any questions or concerns feel free to ask at any time, we r all here to help!!


Take Care,

[Daud McGuire]

Carol who are you lying to. Make your Shahadah.

[sugarbb]

I:) just want to say welcome to TTI !:hearts: May you find this website useful and i hope you will learn more about Islam with an open heart. InsyaAllah.

[Muslimah_Samirah]

assalamo aleikum ,
Be welcome here i was christian before convert to muslim 2 , i was protestant very much but than i saw the light of islam , any kand of help that u need ´plz ask me in what i know i'll try to help u Allah Hafiz :tti_sister:

[maninfosys2003]

Dear Brother,
Peace and Blessing of AlMighty be upon you.
Welcome to this forum where you will find all answers what you have been searching for in Life.
Please look at these Videos and You B the Judge why people Choose Islam which is unfortunately in troubled state due to politics
Was Christ (pbuh) Really Crucified a debate between great Scholar of Islam and Christian Missionary, both speakers take references from Quran and Bible in order to prove their points with convincing arguments.

Debate between
Pastor Ruknuddin Pio - Arab Christian Missionary
Dr Zakir Naik - Orator On Islam & Comparative Religion

Muslims believe that Jesus was not crucified. It was the plan of Jesus' enemies to crucify him, but God saved him and raised him up to Him.
It is also true that the Muslims, on the authority of the Qur'an and the sayings of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) believe in the second coming of Jesus Christ (pbuh). He was the only Prophet of Allah who was raised up alive. Allah says:
Here what AlMighty Allah(SWT) says

[004:157] They said "We killed Jesus, the son of Mary, the Massiah, the messenger of Allah!" But they did not kill him, and they did not crucify him! It just appeared to them to be so! Those who differ are certainly in doubt about that matter. They do not have a definite knowledge. (They have nothing) except their assumptions and conjectures. They definitely did not kill him!

[041:042] Falsehood can neither confront it (Quran) head on, nor approach it (stealthily) from behind. (It is) a revelation from the Wise, the One Worthy of praise.

[003:071] Oh people of the book(Jews and Christians) ! Why do you drape the truth with falsehood? (Why do) you knowingly conceal the truth?


MUST SEE eight parts of the the Video on youtube

http://youtube.com/results?search_query=Ruknuddin+Zakir&search=Search
http://youtube.com/watch?v=W18TQhBrFZA

:salah:

[acedoc]

Why does Islam continue to be successful in the developed world?
Question No 3143

Question:
Why has Islam continued to be so successful in the modern world?

Answer:

Praise be to Allaah.

Islam continues to be successful in the developed world, and elsewhere, because its call is in accordance with the fitrah or natural inclinations of mankind, and it advocates the best of human values, such as tolerance, love, mercy, truthfulness and sincerity.

Islam educates people and lifts them up to righteous conduct, good manners and virtue. Its call is distinguished from others by its realism, balance and moderation. Islam pays due attention to both the soul and the body. It neither suppresses physical desires nor allows extravagance in this regard; it makes a distinction between the natural inclination to enjoy the pleasures of this world and forbidden desires that come under the heading of depravity and perversion.

People embrace Islam because they find security, comfort and peace in it, they see a cure for their problems in it, and through it they are able to get rid of their feelings of confusion, anxiety and loss.

Islam is the religion of the fitrah, the natural inclination or pattern on which Allaah has created mankind. For this reason, people of sound minds and upright inclinations embrace Islam, as Abu Hurayrah (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: “The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: ‘There is no child who is not born in a state of fitrah (i.e., Islam), then his parents make him into a Jew, a Christian or a Magian (Zoroastrian), just as animals produce whole animals (i.e., the animals are born perfect with no part of their bodies missing). Do you find any born with their ears cut off?’” Then Abu Hurayrah (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: “ ‘… Allaah’s handiwork according to the pattern on which He has made mankind: no change (let there be) in the work (wrought) by Allaah: that is the Standard Religion…’ [al-Room 30:30 – interpretation of the meaning – Yusuf Ali’s translation].” (Reported by al-Bukhaari, 1359). What is meant is that Allaah has created mankind with the potential to learn the truth, accept Tawheed (pure monotheism) and submit to Allaah. Their natural inclination is to learn Islam and love it, but a bad education, a kaafir (disbelieving) environment, their own whims and desires and the devils among jinn and mankind turn them away from the truth. Mankind is basically inclined towards Tawheed (pure monotheism), as the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) reported that his Lord (Allaah) said: “I created all my slaves as ‘hunafa’ (pure monetheists), but the devils turned them away from their religion.” (Reported by Muslim). For this reason the one who becomes a Muslim after having been a disbeliever is described as having “reverted” to Islam, as this is more correct than saying that he “converted.” When Islam enters a country where there is no nationalism or great legacy of jaahiliyah (ignorance), it spreads quickly because of its strength and the small number of obstacles. You may also see that Islam is suitable for all people, educated and uneducated, male and female, old and young; everyone finds in it what he wants and needs. Those who become Muslim in developed countries realize what their country’s civilization and laws, which have been fabricated from men’s whims and desires, have done to them, and they realize the extent of the misery in which people in developed countries are living. They see how prevalent psychological illnesses, nervous breakdowns, insanity and suicides are, despite the technological advances and great number of discoveries and inventions and modern systems of management. This is because all of that is concerned only with the physical and the outward, but it neglects the inward and fails to nourish and nurture the heart and soul. Allaah says of these people (interpretation of the meaning): “They know only the outside appearance of the life of the world, and they are heedless of the Hereafter.” [al-Room 30:7]

Islam will continue to succeed, with the permission of Allaah, so long as those who work for its sake are sincere and its followers adhere to it and believe in it, and apply its laws.

The fact that there are those who are not committed or who fall short will not prevent Islam from succeeding, with the permission of Allaah, and nothing can distort its beauty. Its light will not falter because some people abandon it or fail to adhere to it. What Islam has given humanity in the way of progress and civilization, and lifting them up from the darkness of oppression and enmity, is pride enough.
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[omar.ghamdi]

I welcome you sister to this site and I can tell you one thing; Allah knows what's inside us and knows if you are sincere in finding the truth and READY to accept it because finding and embracing are totally two different things. If you are ready for both Allah will give it to you. However, I advice you not to rush into things; especially, when it to comes to religions. Take your time and do not make the decision of becoming a Muslim until we fully understand what are you heading for.....


Omar.............

[MUHAMMAD_SHAIKH]

hello carol
please visit this site:
www.irf.net
for further investigations into islam as compared to other religions.

[brother4ever]

Hello
Sister
First of all Warm Welcome on the behalf of TTI family.How are you & I hope my email find you in the best of you & your family health & I am sure you will whatevr you want , share & and learn lot's of good things,I will prey sister that ALLAH will accept all your wishes and give you Hidayat.

ALLAH HAFIZ
Your Brother