Can Israel handle attacks from....

[JD19]

Hezbollah from the north, Gaza from the South and West Bank from the east all at the same time? Why dont they get together and give Israel a hard time?

[Al Qassimi]

Salam Alkeilkom

Well the sad the truth is, Israel is capable of defending it self. It has a strong military and a strong support from the US. Even, if both of those sides gave a hard time to Israel; Israel will still be capable of standing it's ground.

Israel is much more developed from any middle eastern country
Israel has Nuclear weapons
Israel has one of the STRONGEST Airforce in the world
Its capable of defending it self against Jordan, Syria, Egypt, and forth on

I am not on the side of Israel but Palestine. And can't wait for the day to see that place to be set free from Israel.

[AdamMuslim]

Besm Allah,
Assalamou Alikom Wa Rahmatou Allah,

The answer by Brother Al_Quassimi is exactly what the sionist wants us to say. Thy were working so hard to introduce within ourselves this kind of thinking.

I'm not denying facts and reality but when I remember the totally unbalanced war against Hizb ALLAH I beleive that we should never underestimate the strength of the faith.

They may have F16, Smart Bombs, Mirkava....but we have ALLAHOU AKBAR....I have no doubt about the fact that this entity will desepear. Even whithout war !!

[Al Qassimi]

I will have to agree with AdamMuslim; What Hizb did against Israel was amazing, they were winning the war because they had faith like no other.

[Mabsoot]

assalamu alaykum,

What Hizb did against Israel was amazing, they were winning the war because they had faith like no other.

Correct, they are Disbelievers! Thats why they have no faith like no other. They curse Abu Sufian, they curse Abu Bakr, Umar, Uthman, Aisha and many other Sahaba, May Allahs blessings be upon them all. -- They reject the sunnah of the Prophet :saw: and ascribe partners with Allah through the Imam worshipping...+ many other evil things.

The very fact that people rely on those who curse the Sahaba, who do shirk by associating partners with Allah, who hate the Muslims and are historically linked to the Jews, i.e. Hizb Shaitan in Lebanon, is a sign of how weak Muslims have become.

Having lived in Lebanon, I know how bad these groups are and their true intentions and hatred to the Muslims. The majority of the people really distrust and dislike them. They have much sponsorship from Iran.

They beat up and tortured a really good Sunni Shaykh in Lebanon. These filthy Hizb Shaitan people with their leader Nasr Iblis!! have strong links to Moqtada Sadr and his militia in Iraq. -- Unless you have been dormant living in a cave, these are people who kidnap, torture and Murder our brothers and sisters in Iraq. -

Many thousands of Muslims have been killed by this militia. Many bodies have been found brutally mutilated...... Bodies of our beloved Iraqi brothers, young and old were found with drill holes in their bodies and limbs sawn off.

Oh, but they speak against Israel.. What great heroes they are! Just because someone fires a rocket at Israel, or opens their mouth to grunt something like a wild animal, does not mean they are correct.

If we are to succeed then the answer is for all of us, the Palestinians too of course, to start practising Islam properly. Starting from firm foundation in Tawheed and Aqeedah. -- It is because of this LACK of foundation that people have NO Honour and quickly run to praise the disgusting shiite group of Lebanon.

Alhamdulillah, Most Palestinians do NOT like this group or the Shia.

The problem is with ourselves, our Ummah as a whole. It is easy for us to focus on the various leaders and governments, but this will not achieve much except added frustration. wasting of time and stupidity for those who know nothing about Manhaj.

We can help ourselves out this situation by working together as Muslims. Firstly, learning and teaching Islam, this is cultivating ourselves on the true Islamic beliefs. We should love one another and help each other monetarily and in all ways.

This is something the Israeli Zionists really really hate. I know so, as I have spoken to several Israeli army chiefs whilst I was held at border crossing-- They do not like to see anyone who is "Islamic", especially those who wish Muslims to return to the Quran and Sunnah. They do not mind so much those who just "fight" and are ignorant of Islam. -- A lot of Palestinians do things, but with no Islamic knowledge whatsoever. Even, they die fighting the Israelis and have never prayed! - They benefit nobody, just another waste of a life. Especially, the various secular armed groups who do not fight for Islam.

The Israelis had also questioned one of our Shaykhs in Palestine. Shaykh Hisham al Areef. He is a teacher in Masjid al Aqsa, and Alhamdulillah, he is well. But, the Israelis had questioned him in the airport when he came back from a da'wah trip abroad.. The Shaykh explained to them all things in detail.. Telling them about the true Islam etc. They asked him whether he believed in Jihad. The Shaykh said "yes" and explained to them all of Jihad and that it includes to fight and free our lands. - Alhamdulillah, this is a shaykh who follows Quran and Sunnah, and so opposes use of suicide bombing.

He teaches in Jerusalem, in Masjid al Aqsa and surrounding areas to the brothers and sisters, calling them to Tawheed. He has a great school there, mashaAllah where people especially the young are starting to practise Islam more and more........ This is where our success will come from, inshaAllah. From learning and implementation of original Islamic teachings.

Arabs, Muslims have much money. Lets not kid ourselves. Even some prominent Palestinian have multi millions stashed away... as well as other people in that region.

But, we are weak. There are many things I would say about it, things that none of the media knows. But, I know it is futile to bring up. It will not benefit us Muslims in the least.

Even this website, needs support, but we get very little. Ironically, people use it to complain about the world.

wasalam!

[Steve940]

:salam2:

JazakAllah khair brother Mabsoot it's always a pleasure to read your posts, thanks for sharing

:salam2:

[irish_muslim_08]

All I will say I live in ireland on the border with Northern Ireland, I have lived a little through The Omagh Bombing and other attrocities, and have seen the footage from the events of Bloddy Sunday when British army troops kill 13 unarmed Nationalist (Catholic) Civil Rights marches in Derry and seen two unarmed off-duty British troops (namely Protestant persuasion) drive into a funeral procession in a Republican/Nationalist (Catholic) by accident, only to be ripped from the car, mutiliated and crucified bya mob of people. For all the violence lastsing some 30 plus years it achieved nothing but deeper division. The only way that they have peace no, is that they sat down and talked and worked through their issues. It isn't perfect, but its better than more violence and it is getting better all the time. In conflict, there are no winners despite what some might say on this topic, only losers, families of men, women adn children and yes the families of the soldiers too, they are humans after all regardless of race or religion. The situation there is very complex but the only way forward really is to stop fighting and start talking. It really is that simple. If people sit down and talk, they can achieve great things together, but if they (both sides) chose to continue fighting it will only get worse. I know that when someone pushes you you're first thought is to push them back and maybe knock them down, but choosing not to is not a sign of weakness but instead a sign of strength. As the old saying goes 'The pen mightier than the sword' and it one that I think both parties could adopt to deal with their prblems.

[Mabsoot]

Assalamu alaykum,

That is correct Irish Muslim, but, Palestine is different. If you went there, you would notice something extreme sad and sickening. That is the behaviour of the Israeli Jews.

I was never expecting to see such widespread cold hearted hatred. For example, at the Allenby crossing, you will see that most the Israeli who work there are girls and men just teenagers or in their 20s. They shout and scream at the old people, they often do not even speak, just using hand gestures and making faces at the people. They will throw down people's papers or just put them to the side and tell them to wait.. and then they just sit back and read a newspaper.

They have soldiers wearing civillian clothes walk in and out, carrying Israeli machine guns, looking at all the people... and just stopping and staring to intimidate.

I was kept for 6 hours and taken to a room where they had Air conditioner on full blast, and kept me there to make me cold.. then they started to ask questions. They took advantage of my fasting in Ramadhan and ridiculed it. This is normal.. Palestinians suffer worse.

People suffer at checkpoints, men, women and children. Nobody gets preferential treatment. If you are a pregnant woman going into labour, the Israelis will not care. Many women have given birth at checkpoints, and many children have died there too.

Often, people can not get any adequate medical attention. Houses are demolished to build new Israeli settlements, the Jews have their own roads. Not one part of Palestine is FREE from any settlement or checkpoint. There are Israeli gunships, spy balloons, robot spy devices, road blocks, Watch towers, the Giant apartheid barrier... and Israeli Jewish settlers who are allowed to carry guns and attack people at will.

The Palestinians, Allah bless them, are a complete opposite. They are perhaps the most gentle and kind people in the world. They have much patience. They love peace and many say they are happy and always were, to share their lands with people of other faiths.. as has been done for hundreds of years.

The Peace Settlement???

The Palestinian territory right now, is around 20% of the Original Palestinian land (Gaza strip and West Bank) - These areas, the West Bank is full of checkpoints, illegal israeli settlements. The Israeli have 80% of the remaining land. The Amazing thing is, that the Palestinian authority already said they would make peace.. keeping the West Bank and Gaza strip as their Homeland together with Jerusalem as capital.

The Israelis on the other hand, are not content. They will never agree to peace. They They always want more and more... and do not want to share Jerusalem. They have already started trying to cut up the land, building walls that annex off much Palestinian land.

Camp David was basically the reduction of that 20% of Palestinian Land (together with Israeli checkpoints), that I mentioned and without Jerusalem as capital for Palestine. -

Peace will only be when the Palestinians are given their full rights, there is nothing wrong Islamically, for the Palestinians to make peace with the Israelis. In Islamic history, the Muslims made various peace settlements with their enemies and had to concede land. But, they never gave up and victory was theirs in the end. It is a time where Muslims can consolidate themselves, make themselves more strong.. in order to regain their lands and people's rights. Alhamdulillah.

The Palestinians have right to defend themselves, the Israelis have killed 6,500 people in last 6 years, whereas the Palestinians with their poorly equipped forces and makeshift rockets have killed around 16 Israeli Jews. - Yet, the Palestinians are portrayed as the bad terrorists and the Israelis are seen as an army using justified force. - the British and Americans remain silent and even arm them and give them billions in military aid!

assalamu alaykum

[irish_muslim_08]

Masboot, having never visited the region I can't compare you experience to mine as i haven't had one, but I know of the hatred you speak of. Yes their territory has been reduced in size, but the part of Ireland known as Northern Ireland has been 'occupied' by the British since the southern part of Ireland (The Repuublic) was given independence in 1921. The island of Ireland had previously been occuppied by the British for 800 years prior to this. Many uprisings had occured over that time but they all failed, Ireland was given independence because they fought the British in the War of independence (the movies Michael Collins and The Wind that shakes the Barley highlight these events quite well) but Britian were also fighting in World War 1, so Ireland were fortunate, but the North has been british territory since. The nationalist community were subjigated because of their beliefs and treated as sub-humans, not even as second class citizens. This hatred errupted during the 40 years of violence known as the Troubles and the effects of it are still visble today as the scars of this period is ever present in our daily lives in Community Murals depicting it. But what our deeply divided religious society did was sit down and begin to talk and amazingly we have had peace for over a decade now and the fortunes of our society have taken a turn for the better. I am not for one minute disputing the hatred for each other by both the Israeli or Muslim arabs in the area. I know it exists. how amazing would it be though if peace could be attained. Would it not be amazing to see hamas whose credibility the west is uncertain of propose talks of peace. They would gain respect and fans the world over. The region is in an awful mess, and someone has to do something about it. The longer they use violence towards one another the more harm it will do. i am not taking sides, as I think it is unwise to do so. Yes they have a right to defend themselves, everyone does, but there comes a point is all I am getting at.....

[AdamMuslim]

Besm Allah,
Assalamou Alikom Warahmatou Allah,

To dear brother Mabsoot,

You have sad "... they are Disbelievers! Thats why they have no faith like no other... " when you talked about Hisb Allah.

Honestly, even if I'm sunni muslim I don't agree with you at all and those are my arguments :

1. The prophet said that whenever somone calls onother by "disbeliever", certainly there is one of them who is really disbeliver (kafer). Then personally I think It is scary to take that risk.

2. It is hard for me to call them "disbeliver" since all of them (at least the majority) belive that there is no god but Allah and Mohammed is his messenger regardless of what they think.

3. I know many *!*!*!*! (by the way many of them are named Omar !!!) who don't belive at all on the stories and lies made by some fool and incredibly stupid *!*!*!*! scholar.

4. I truly belive that Allah is infinitely merciful. May be he will forgive those who have lost the right path thanks to their Shahada.

This is my personal opinion. May be I have reason, may be I'm wrong. But definitely I avoid to call them DISBELIVER. Only Allah will judge them.

:wasalam:

[Amir_of_spain]

The palestinian/israeli conflicit is never going to end through peaceful negiotiations simply because israel is a superpower, now why would a zionist superpower settle for peace ie give up its dream of a total isreali, give up its land/settlements to the palestinians who are basically have no political leverage whatsoever. You cant compare this conflicit to anyother that has ever existed simply because of its location ie the holiest city for the 3 main religions. Control of the land has always taken place through miltaray.

[GAZIJA]

Esselamu Aleikum

Let's not joke ourselves, this fighting will never stop untill the day of judgement, May Allah help palestinians in their jihad:salah:

[blackivy393]

does anyone know who the prime minister is right now. because ariel sharon was really good about being in the media and seeing his face; but all this stuff happening right now i have seen any speech from the prime minister now

[sister harb]

:salam2:

Do you possible mean prime monster Ehud Olmert?

[AKHI]

:salam2:

Do you possible mean prime monster Ehud Olmert?

Y is he a monster? Care to share? Previously, I had enough of hearing out the politics between the Israil & palastine. Now i am quite clueless. Ever since Arafat had pass away.

All i know is that many Muslim had died of the Israil attack.

[*Saniyah*]

:salam2:

Where is sister Dianek to read every letter of brother Mabsoot (http://www.turntoislam.com/forum/member.php?u=1)'s posts in this thread.
It would really benefit many muslims.

wa salaam

[dianek]

:salam2:

Where is sister Dianek to read every letter of brother Mabsoot (http://www.turntoislam.com/forum/member.php?u=1)'s posts in this thread.
It would really benefit many muslims.

wa salaam


What is your point? I agree with much of what he says...I didn't see him say "let's go kill people"....Mabsoot is a level headed diplomatic and I enjoy his posts thoroughly. If only everyone else were so eloquent.

[*Saniyah*]

:salam2:

My point is, like I said, it would benefit you and other muslims who take their informations from foxnews when it comes to Palestine issues.

also sister, it is obligatory to you to reply to the salaams. Just a reminder.

wa salaam

[*Saniyah*]

:salam2:

Sorry for going off topic sis dianek, but in your profile stands this:
"God loves justice and those who strive to practice it, especially toward people who are different from them in any way, including in matters of religious belief (5:8), (60:8)."
Is this quote suppose to be from the Qur'an?

Sūrat Al-Mā'idah chapter 5 verse 8

O you who believe! Stand out firmly for Allāh and be just witnesses and let not the enmity and hatred of others make you avoid justice. Be just: that is nearer to piety, and fear Allāh. Verily, Allāh is Well*!Acquainted with what you do.

Sūrat Al-Mumtaĥanah chapter 60 verse 8

Allāh does not forbid you to deal justly and kindly with those who fought not against you on account of religion and did not drive you out of your homes. Verily, Allāh loves those who deal with equity.

---

May I ask from where you got that translation?

wa salaam

[dianek]

SALAAM

I am a new muslim and you know what, I forget often....excuse me.

Gosh, you know not sure where I got that from exactly, I believe I read it from tti since I don't frequent any other islamic sites, must have been from a link here along the line.......

Finally, I wish you people would stop talking to me like I have done something to the palestinians or I am guilty of their torture. ........

I hope God forgives me for saying this....but sometimes I wish I could just believe in God and the prophets and not identify myself with muslims at all. I apparently are not acceptable to you as I don't think along the hard jaded lines that you do. Forgive me but I grew up in a different society, albeit sheltered. So I don't know much about issues outside my borders.....and yeah frankly in the past I didn't care....but I believe that diplomacy is best. I believe EVERY life was given by God and should be taken by GOD alone.

WASALAAM!

[Ibn_hassan]

Sorry sis if any of the above replies offended you. knowing that you are a new muslim i would suggest you to just forgive and be patient of what ppl say or different opinions by different people. you right ppl are not the same, some see an issue in a way while others think the opposite but it just a matter of opinion and ppl make mistakes in reciting the quran and transalating as we are just humans. it is not a big deal . may allah bless you all

[*Saniyah*]

SALAAM

I am a new muslim and you know what, I forget often....excuse me.

Gosh, you know not sure where I got that from exactly, I believe I read it from tti since I don't frequent any other islamic sites, must have been from a link here along the line.......

Finally, I wish you people would stop talking to me like I have done something to the palestinians or I am guilty of their torture. ........

I hope God forgives me for saying this....but sometimes I wish I could just believe in God and the prophets and not identify myself with muslims at all. I apparently are not acceptable to you as I don't think along the hard jaded lines that you do. Forgive me but I grew up in a different society, albeit sheltered. So I don't know much about issues outside my borders.....and yeah frankly in the past I didn't care....but I believe that diplomacy is best. I believe EVERY life was given by God and should be taken by GOD alone.

WASALAAM!

As salaamu aleykum wa rahmatullah

I'm sorry sis, I didn't mean to sound harsh, that was just my advice to you as a sister in Islaam.

I am also a convert and not very old one, and I have to say it hurts me very much to see and hear about sufferings of my brothers and sisters in Islaam all over the world. It hurts me that I cannot do much.
And then, you have to understand, it irritates me when a muslim seems to sympathize with the ones working against Islaam and fighting without shame against muslims.

I'm also not from a muslim country but alhamdulillaah, we have all this technology today to find out more.
Also I trust more to what righteous muslims have witnessed than what some dude from tv says who have seen the war only in video games.
I would like you to trust muslims more rather than american media.

The translation what you have is incorrect I think, as I compared, that's why I asked.

Yes every life is given by Allaah, but you have to understand that no one dies or gets killed but by the will of Allaah; if that is meant to be, we have to accept that. That is al-qadr, the Divine Decree.
And Allaah The Most Just gave us the right to defend ourselves against those who are driving us out from our lands.

Our Lord! In You (Alone) we put our trust, and to You (Alone) we turn in repentance, and to You (Alone) is (our) final Return.
(Al-Mumtahinah 60:4)

wa salaam

[Aapa]

Salaam,

I replied in a similar to post to Sister Dianek. She helps everyone by asking questions. Why do Muslims have a deep love and we go blastic when it comes to other Muslims. Why are we so helpless..what is the glue that keeps us connected. She raised an intersting point..until she reverted she was unaware of the larger issues in the world. She is attempting to learn and as she learns she helps us to teach those who are young and new reverts. As her veils of ignorance are lifted so are ours.

[warda A]

:salam2:

Do you really believe an attack on Israel will solve the problem?
Does anyone remember the last wars of 1945 and 1967?
(i hope the dates are correct), those wars were fought by all Arab nations against Israel and guess what ? what gain did they get? nothing, because Israel had help and will have help always.
That is the painful truth!
Palestinians should first and foremost stop internal squabbles, who will take a people fighting amongst themselves seriously? If they had unity then people would listen but if they themselves are divided then their enemies have a foot hold by dividing them more.
(the colonial choice of divide and rule)it really works.

now i get off point: most Americans are grew up in a sheltered environment (meaning they are ignorant of the world outside of USA) nobody argue, as Dianek is concerned we are teaching each other about our differences, and am glad and agree with Mirajmom on this we are trying to cure our ignorances.even though people have difference of opinion, we should learn how to respect one another.
There is a verse that goes like this : did I not create you into different nations so that you may live in harmony? (someone elaborate &i will check exactly which verse inshallah)

[sister harb]

:salam2:

I think you forgot some wars as 1956 and 1973.

Also the first Intifada what started at 1987 and second one 2000.

[sister harb]

:salam2:

Do you really believe an attack on Israel will solve the problem?


:salam2:

You are right in this matter; we don´t need more wars. We need brains and intelligence, not more weapons. The pen is the most powerfull weapon in this world and will to use it by right way.

[Amir_of_spain]

Salam. Lets look at things from a historic point of view. In the past Jerusalam/palestine was brutally taken away from this ummah by the crusaders. At that time the muslim/arab lands was paralysed by internal conflicits, so the sacking of jersualam and the killing of its people occurred and the arab world did nothing. No response at all. And this remained the situation for nearly 1 century. So how did we get it back?

Well lets see what happen... salahadeen after becoming amir of egypt started a unique campaign in the arab world, to conquer each arab state and to install proper governance, this took him decades to do. Once this was achieved, a unity of purpose was created in the arabworld, the feuding arab factions were united and then able to counter attack the crusaders. Whilst this was happening, there was a complete reversal of power in the middle east ie the cruader kingdom was at its weakness due to internal conflicits and the arab muslims were finally united. Only then in his 50s did he decide the ummah was ready. When he became amir of egypt, he still had a army that he could have used, but salahadeen knew, theyre werent ready, the ummah wasnt ready.

Similar today, history is repeating itself. The arabworld also now the greater muslim world has no unity, or sense of purpose, just like in the past during salahdeens time. Until all the feuding factions we see today unity, then victory cannot come. If you think hamas, hizbollah and the other small feuding factions will do it, then think again, cos i doubt that allah will give victory to muslim groups who he knows will only then go onto fighting each other for power/control of the land. So until we sort out our own problems, then the cycles of violence and destruction will continue until the people of this ummah decide to change their strategy.

[dianek]

As salaamu aleykum wa rahmatullah

I'm sorry sis, I didn't mean to sound harsh, that was just my advice to you as a sister in Islaam.

I am also a convert and not very old one, and I have to say it hurts me very much to see and hear about sufferings of my brothers and sisters in Islaam all over the world. It hurts me that I cannot do much.
And then, you have to understand, it irritates me when a muslim seems to sympathize with the ones working against Islaam and fighting without shame against muslims.

I'm also not from a muslim country but alhamdulillaah, we have all this technology today to find out more.
Also I trust more to what righteous muslims have witnessed than what some dude from tv says who have seen the war only in video games.
I would like you to trust muslims more rather than american media.

The translation what you have is incorrect I think, as I compared, that's why I asked.

Yes every life is given by Allaah, but you have to understand that no one dies or gets killed but by the will of Allaah; if that is meant to be, we have to accept that. That is al-qadr, the Divine Decree.
And Allaah The Most Just gave us the right to defend ourselves against those who are driving us out from our lands.

Our Lord! In You (Alone) we put our trust, and to You (Alone) we turn in repentance, and to You (Alone) is (our) final Return.
(Al-Mumtahinah 60:4)

wa salaam

So you are saying that God puts it in another mans heart to go out and kill? Then accept that God is making Israel do what they do? If all that is going on over there is meant to be, then why is everyone so angry about it. Sit back stop arguing and let God do his job then. I am sorry, but I don't think God intended for them to kill each other, that is the devils work.

[Aapa]

Salaam,

Let us not get into arguments that are unacceptable in Islam. We can never assume what Allah would do.
Sister Dianek, we have to understand the precepts of Islam are different from Christianity. I often see the "turn the other cheek" philosophy in your writings. That is also Islam but there comes a time when the ummath needs to unite for the sake of Islam. What I am reading is many people do not see the Palestine cause as an Islamic cause.
Islam teaches us to forgive,but this is not the time to forgive. Not yet, once the people of Palestine are reinstated into thier rightful homes they will Insha'Allah practice forgiveness. At this time they are fighting for survival with us not helping.

[*Saniyah*]

So you are saying that God puts it in another mans heart to go out and kill? Then accept that God is making Israel do what they do? If all that is going on over there is meant to be, then why is everyone so angry about it. Sit back stop arguing and let God do his job then. I am sorry, but I don't think God intended for them to kill each other, that is the devils work.

As Salaamu aleykum sister,

First I have ask you not to twist my words and not to lie about me calling you a traitor (in another thread). Show me where I said that? You have some issues or complex, and I pray to Allaah that you deal with it. You should fear of His displeasure when you are saying false things about any of His slaves.

Second thing, sister. You said by yourself that you don't know much about this issue and you are new to Islaam, and before Islaam you actually didn't care about Palestine and what is going on there. Fine. It's good that you are honest, and if you don't know much the best thing to do is not getting into this type of discussions.
Sister, this conflict has long history, it didn't start since you opened your news channel, and many times there have been peace treaties and many times Jews broke them.
They are the ones who earned Allaah´s wreath, they are the ones who tried to kill all the Prophets, they are the ones who are open enemies to Islaam and to muslims! They are driving muslims out of their lands and the whole world is just silently supporting it. If the muslims would be in israelis place and doing what israelis are doing be sure that your country would bombard them twenty times by now.
Sister, friendly advice, forget these political issues and focus on your Islamic studies. Learn arabic, study Qur'an, devote yourself to please Your Lord, don't waste your time in discussions with me about this. I will also try to stay away insha'Allaah.
About Allaah's will...

And if Allah touches you with harm, none can remove it but He, and if He touches you with good, then He is Able to do all things.
( سورة الأنعام , Al-Anaam, Chapter #6, Verse #17)
Say: "Who is he who can protect you from Allah if He intends to harm you, or intends mercy on you?" And they will not find, besides Allah, for themselves any Walee (protector, supporter, etc.) or any helper.
( سورة الأحزاب , Al-Ahzab, Chapter #33, Verse #17)
And verily, if you ask them: "Who created the heavens and the earth?" Surely, they will say: "Allah (has created them)." Say: "Tell me then, the things that you invoke besides Allah, if Allah intended some harm for me, could they remove His harm, or if He (Allah) intended some mercy for me, could they withhold His Mercy?" Say : "Sufficient for me is Allah; in Him those who trust (i.e. believers) must put their trust."
( سورة الزمر , Az-Zumar, Chapter #39, Verse #38)
Secret counsels (conspiracies) are only from Shaitan (Satan), in order that he may cause grief to the believers. But he cannot harm them in the least, except as Allah permits, and in Allah let the believers put their trust .
( سورة المجادلة , Al-Mujadila, Chapter #58, Verse #10)
Say "In Whose Hand is the sovereignty of everything (i.e. treasures of each and everything)? And He protects (all), while against Whom there is no protector, (i.e. if Allah saves anyone none can punish or harm him, and if Allah punishes or harms anyone none can save him), if you know." (Tafsir Al-Qurtubee, Vol. 12, Page 145)
( سورة المؤمنون , Al-Mumenoon, Chapter #23, Verse #88)

Allaah's knowledge encompasses all...past present future, whatever is going on is not necessarily Allaah's pleasure, but of course is in His knowledge..
so killings should stop of course
but so should the opression stop
and israelis are doing the opression.

May Allaah increase you in knowledge and faith, may He bless you and protect you from the harm. Amiin.

May Allaah reward with good in both worlds sister mirajmom for her wise words.Amiin.

May Allaah help our brothers and sisters under opression, may He give them patience and victory over the transgressors.Amiin.

wa salaam.

[Mabsoot]

:salam2:

This is not political discussion site, it is Islamic one,

We dont have time to babysit people who get emotional and go off on tangents that have no basis in Islam.

Therefore it is locked. Maybe, even this section will be closed!! A lot of people have complained about arguing.

wasalam