Converting

[Justice]

Myself and English protestant, I find it hard to watch video's of my people turning to islam. I watched a documentry of kid's in bradford who claimed they were muslim.

Stealing our kids right from under our noses. If I took a muslim child and made them believe islam was lie, the muslim community would go crazy!

You may think i'm being racist here i'm really not, I respect your religion, but locally when my town puts up christmas decorations, the council ask us to call them seasonal decorations because they have received complaints, it's just beyond a joke.

[Mabsoot]

Hi there, firstly nobody is going out and looking to "Steal" any child or person.

That video just shows children who wanted to go to the mosque, and enjoyed going there. THats all. Nobody told them to do what they do. . They happened to go to the mosque and its where they like to spend their time. There is nothing wrong with them wanting to go to the Mosque. Its not exactly "stealing" kids. And nobody is telling them what they believe is a lie.

THey're children and like 1000s of other kids in the UK they just do what they like to do. They go to the mosque to learn to read and write and obviously, if that mosque was a scary place, then they wouldnt want to go.

As for Christmas Decorations, i dont see what that has to do with Muslims in your area. If anything, it is non-Muslim councillors trying to be politically correct. In the end, they just make things worse. When they do those things it just gives more fuel to the racist / BNP types

PC renaming of Christmas lights 'an error'
(http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=367341&in_page_id=1770)

Its strange because Christmas is celebrated openly with all the festive decorations in various countries with Muslim / Christian populations. Such as Lebanon etc. The Christians do their celebrations.

There is no reason for Muslims to complain about the celebrations particularly in the Western non Muslim countries.- Muslims believe and Love Jesus (peace and blessing be upon him) and he is a respected Prophet. Although we do not believe Jesus was a God or worship him.

[3assal]

Myself and English protestant, I find it hard to watch video's of my people turning to islam. I watched a documentry of kid's in bradford who claimed they were muslim.

Stealing our kids right from under our noses. If I took a muslim child and made them believe islam was lie, the muslim community would go crazy!

You may think i'm being racist here i'm really not, I respect your religion, but locally when my town puts up christmas decorations, the council ask us to call them seasonal decorations because they have received complaints, it's just beyond a joke.


I noticed you mentioned someone is stealing your kids from right under your noses! who is??? Call the police ASAP!

No seriously, no one is stealing nobody's children. If a child is curious and wishes to learn about Islam, and in the process decides to convert, that is their choice. No one is making them do anything. Maybe you should try to learn about Islam yourself and see why many adults as well as children are converting....

take care!

3assal:bananabb2in:

[smikoq]

Hi there,
Inshallah Allah will guide you to the right faith. Allah (swt) guide those who truly looking for guidance. I would say to you, study about Islam with open heart I am sure you will get guidance from God (Allah)

[B.H.]

I watched the video and do not think the kids were being "sloen" in anyway.

It looked to me like they had their mother's permission to go, not that that really mattters---serving Allah comes first regardless of what the mother thinks. However, for the sake of accuracy it does appear the mother had no problems and saw what happiness going to mospque brought the kids, which is another important observation. the kids wanted to go and of their own free will. Whatever those brothers and sisters were doing, they must have been doing it right because I know of very few children that given the option would go to church on their own. those children were forming and developing their own faith and love of Allah and not being forced fed religion.

[radika]

First you must learn more about islam with open heart and i beleive that you excepted islam like a religion for peace and love,but Allah Almity know the best.When I saw that the biggest opponent of islam and other,axcepted islam what we can say about kids with clean hearts.May Allah guided to the right path (insallah).

[Umm Aysha]

Salaam all..

Stealing kids its nonsense....i dont understand, did u not watch da video.
The kids were happy to go masjid on their own choice and their mother didnt see a problem wit it.

I agree wit smikoq if u try to study about islam even u might see the truth...
Only allah swt guides who who he wishes...

w/salaam

[Abu.Amirah]

Assalamu aleikum,

Islam is beautiful,Islam does not teach Killing the innocent nor does it steal children from the parents.Islam is open for anyone young or adult and its clear and straight forward.What the child learnt made him realise the truth and he has the right to choose what he wants in his/her life and inshallah may Allah guide him and those like him to the right way of the truth.
One question you should ask is why did that young fellow accept to be a muslim? Like the other says maybe you should try and learn about islam and then you decide.
We live in a christian country too and we dont have any problems with anyone,we celebrate our Eid and christians celebrate their christmas without a fight. So maybe it depends on how you celebrate yours.There must be a reason for a complaint so try to find out why.

Abdallah

[38khadj]

:salam2: Brother
Brother I would choose your wording more carefully !
Alot of us english reverts might find your response ofensive.
It dosnt matter what colour you are Allah made us all different in many ways colour, looks and so on. It to my knowledge has never been stated that to be a muslim you must be of any certain colour.

To the person that oringanally is worried that english children are maybe forced into Islam is very narrow minded.
To my knowledge we have freedom of choice, these children choose to come to Islam, they are been guided that way by the creator, you have to accept that nobody forces anybody. Again certain religions are not for certain colours and you are been very narrow minded about this.
I am a revert, english, white and certainly wasnt forced into any religion. I had a choice and I chose Islam Praise be to Allah, and since been a muslim my life has gone better and better Allhamdolilla. My son at the time of me accepting islam was 8 years old and he eventually accepted Islam when he was 10 years old by no force it was his choice to be muslim Islam is certainly not about force or oppresion please bear this in mind when you think we are stealing your english children!
Choice.......

:wasalam:

[zarah]

Assalamu Alaikum,

I am a new user,I just wanted to point out to "Justice"

"Stealing our kids right from under our noses" is a joke,kids come with their own will!

"I find it hard to watch video's of my people turning to islam"

I think you should rephrase the sentence above.

I don`t know why do find it so difficult to watch people coming to right path! May Allah(Swt) guide you to the right path.

Walaikum Salam

[Karima]

I can understand why you feel this way> For you to see this site is good that you can write what you feel>
There is one common thread about Islam that got my attention> and this is the angel Gabriel who came to Daniel in the lions den and to Mary to tell her of her having a baby< then the angel Gabriel was also sent to another man< Muhammad>>>so I began to take a look into this with an open mind>
I came from a Christian background grounded in the bible>

I have a post< that might be able to show you where I came from> to where I am now>>>

[quailey]

salam there!!!
What can i say?...
Try to know the reason why this people are converting to islam..
Maybe you would realize that this people made the right decession..

[oceane]

Salam aleikoum,

there's a french proverb that says " truth only comes out from kids' mouth". I found the word "stealing" very hard, because as you noticed, no one forced those kids to turn to islam. You might know, as a verse in the Quran states it : " THERE IS NO COMPULSION IN RELIGION ".

We as muslims respect your religion, and it's nice to hear you do respect ours. But if i may ask, do you at least know what islam is ?

Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world. There surely might be a reason for all these people making the choice to be muslims.

Anyway , thank you for your comment, and feel free to ask any question you got, about islam.

Peace be upon you, and may our Lord guide us all, amen

[CuriousAboutIslam]

Sallam eveyone,
I would just like to say that I found the comment which "justice" made about the young girl wanting to convert quite worrying. The allegation that Islam is "Stealing our kids right from under our noses" is completely unfounded because it goes on the premise that just because the girl was born in England and of light skin colouring, she's meant to be Protestant/Christian!
I find it hard to believe that this comment has even come from a Person of The Book, because although Christians, Jews and Muslims differ on some of our beliefs, we all recognise that we must respect one another. I think it may just be somebody trying to stir up tension between People of the Book which is very upsetting, more so than the crazy idea that the girl in the video was not willingly embracing Islam and the strikingly evident sense of happiness and excitement it brought to her life.
I myself was, or thought I was, Protestant for many years of my life but realised that much of what I had learnt from Protestantism - such as individual responsibility for sin, God and the Day of Judgement- was part of Islam too - except Islam is more straightfoward and less confused. So I would suggest that if you really are Protestant "Justice" that you put your hostile views aside and take a while to understand Islam and the Truth it holds - It will change your life for the better I'm sure of it and will definantly take away some of the anger you seem to harbour. May God Guide you to the Right Path :)

[Karima]

Wasallam,
Thank you for your simple words of clearity....I was also brought up on the book....and found it disheartening to go to church and see people take God so lightly in worship....no one needs loud music, nor a shouting preacher or priest, or force to sings songs to worship the one God. No wonder people are flocking from a religion that practices anything other than reverance of God. The book tried to tell it....but got lost in the translations....the torah tried to tell it....and also was not enough for God to reach all of us, and now we have the Qur'an. It's about time we finally do what God intended in the first place... to WORSHIP only HIM.....Alhamdulillah for God to open my eyes to Islam. Bless all of you wherever you are on your journey with God....Allah....in Arabic words. The same God of Abraham....of Jesus....of Muhammad....for us.

[lost]

On the subject of 'stealing our children' I think I can understand why you would feel that way. But I don't think it is a justifiable feeling.
I'd think that any parent would want nothing more than to make their children happy (I'm in no experience to say that, but it is what I have heard), but I think that part of accomplishing that is allowing them the freedom to explore and believe and learn for themselves, and the things that they want to.
Maybe I am only speaking for myself, and maybe I know nothing. But I can only hope that one day my own parents will realize this. So that I do not have to pretend to be who they want me to be. And so that I dont have to be afraid to be who I am, dont have to hide. I think that one thing a girl my age, or any one for that matter, wants very much is to be loved for who and what she(he) really is. That's all. Not for any surperficial figure that has been created for us to please everyone else.
So you can say that your children are being stolen, but it isn't true. Dont assume that those children were being forced to believe anything other than what they wanted to. You saw how sad she got after she was stripped of those freedoms, and then how excited she was when they were given back.
Dare I say, what happened to the golden rule? If in their shoes, I'm sure you would want to be free to believe as you want.

Anyways, just my thoughts. Hope they are not offensive to anyone..if so, I am very sorry.

[Hihihi]

:salam2:
:subhanallah: This is really unbevieable!!!!!!!!!!!! :frown:

[Karima]

Asalamualikum,

Hihihi, can you elaborate a little for us? This is really unbevieable!!!!!!!!!!!!

Salam,
Kristina

[west]

I am afraid that no-one can be forced into Islam. Thus there is the Shahadah, words which only you as the person embracing Islam can utter.
Christmas decorations - what utter rubbish that people should complain about it if it does not pertain to their faith. People should respect each others faiths and traditions. Besides, you are assuming that it had been Muslims who had complained.

Why are you upset in the first place? Is it because its children who are embracing Islam or are you upset because so many "white" people are embracing Islam?

I was born and reared in the Christian faith, but thankfully my parents always taught us that no matter what faith we follow, we all worship the same God. Are you upset because these children will be woeshipping God in a different way to how you do? By the way, Allah is Arabic for God

[seekingtruth2]

I just had to post on this issue...today is the first day I have even seen this or I would have posted on this sooner. What you say is an out and out lie....chrisitans EVERYDAY try to convert muslim children to chrisitanity....so you cannot say this.....some even go door to door trying to get people to believe your way is right. I have never once seen a muslim come up to me in the street or the mall trying to get me to revert to Islam...but I have seen many a chrisitan do this......when children come up to other children asking about their faith all they do is tell them...NO MUSLIM tries to pull someone away from their fathers faith. However, I am right now dealing with 2 teenage children who reverted to Islam after hearing about it on the internet. Muslims do have educational web sites up to teach people about the truth of our faith in light of current world events and media slander. This is how most people revert to Islam..is through educational web sites... Allah swt puts it in the hearts of some to learn more about Islam despite what is said about it in the media and they end up coming to Allah and Islam.. alhumdullilah! All praise be to God! So you cannot feel truly in your heart that these things you say even resemble truth! This is all I have to say on the matter and please forgive me for sounding offensive in any way but your thought process is simply not understandable! Im sure you've dealt with Jehovas witnesses or baptists or numerous other sects of christians trying to tell you about jesus... and they are even more persistant with the young! So please open your heart and your eyes and see what goes on around you before judge others!
salaam

[abumah]

May Allah (the Only one True Living Creator) Guide you to his obedience, ameen!!! Surely the one who created them has guided them but you may not fully understand the divine predestination of every created being because this is definitely a matter that is beyond the understanding of our human intellect.

The origin of islam is patience and kindness don't feed into the ignorant statements of people about islam be kind to them when they are harsh to you and remember ALLAH when doing so and don't get angry because anger will prevent you from being just and ALLAH has forbade oppression. Refer to the qur'an surah 16 ayat 125

[seekingtruth2]

as salaamu alaykm,
Thank you for your words of wisdom and may Allah forgive me my sins...ameen. I will watch my tongue in the future and I would like to sincerely apologize to the man who origionally wrote this message, please accept my apology and forgive me for offending you in any way! I mean this with a pure heart and good intentions... may Allah swt guide you to know His truth and love.
salaam

[Destiny_Jannah]

aren't we living so called "free society" if these childrens' choice was to revert Islam, why are you calling stolen children..and who is your people by the way "Myself and English protestant, I find it hard to watch video's of my people turning to islam".. Islam isn't the religion of people who have certain color skin..and..if you come with honesty heart..you may learn the truth about Islam and may Allah/God guide you to the right path..obviously you sound like narrow minded..who really doesn't care wether other people have free will...

about Xmass tree..I'm not sure the people who complained are muslims..it could be anyone..so you don't have single out muslims.. .but where I live I don't have any problem with their so called Xmass tree...as long as they don't put infront of my door....

[samiha]

What you say is an out and out lie....chrisitans EVERYDAY try to convert muslim children to chrisitanity....so you cannot say this.....some even go door to door trying to get people to believe your way is right. I have never once seen a muslim come up to me in the street or the mall trying to get me to revert to Islam...but I have seen many a chrisitan do this......when children come up to other children asking about their faith all they do is tell them...NO MUSLIM tries to pull someone away from their fathers faith. Im sure you've dealt with Jehovas witnesses or baptists or numerous other sects of christians trying to tell you about jesus... and they are even more persistant with the young!

:salam2:
:biggrin: i know exactly what you mean, we had the jehovas witnesses people come door to door giving out phamplets in our neighborhood, whereas these children didn't even need such enticement. Truthfully, Islam gets it's media without having to go door to door, maybe many time the wrong misconcepted information but through that many people come to Islam.
I have no idea if this made sence but... only Allah gives hidaya to whom he wills.
:wasalam:

[Destiny_Jannah]

AsSalamu Aleykom

jehovas witnesses!..those people give me nightmare...they can't stop uttering my name and knocking my door every weekend. they will try anything to make you believe their way is the truth. it reached the point where I had to say enough is enough, they don't want to learn my religion or even try to read it for few days to have an understanding. and the more you are polite to them, the more they think you want to be jehovas witness.

if they come by, tell them learn Islam before you knock my door, that is what I told them and never came since...

[big t]

well im wondering why is wen a muslim converts to christianity you go beserk with ur death threats and actual killing. who is it for u to judge

[Mabsoot]

well im wondering why is wen a muslim converts to christianity you go beserk with ur death threats and actual killing. who is it for u to judge

Look who is judging! Why are you generalising? What about the people who die because of Christianity? in Bosnia? in Kosovo? in Chechnya? in India???

Take a Look at the following BBC Article about Rwanda:

Twenty-year-old Zafran Mukantwari was the only person in her family who survived the genocide.


I meet her sitting outside Kigali's Al-Aqsa mosque.
She is tightly veiled and speaks softly as she tells me what happened 10 years ago.
Her family were Catholic, she says. Those who killed them worshipped at the same church.
At the age of 10, Zafran found herself alone and at first she continued going to church.
She thought she could find support there. But then she began to question her faith. "When I realised that the people I was praying with killed my parents, I preferred to become a Muslim because Muslims did not kill."



No protection
Before the genocide more than 60% of Rwandans were Catholic. And when the killings started, tens of thousands of Tutsis fled to churches for sanctuary. But they found little protection there.


Read the Rest here:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/3561365.stm

Also see here:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A53018-2002Sep22.html

[Submitter]

:salam2:

Ah good 'ol jehova witnesses! I don't mean to be rude but I find them quite funny. They knock on your door preaching about their beliefs (which, ironically, is what the original poster was complaining about with Islam and these children) but when you try to preach back to them telling them how you know Islam is the truth they don't wana hear it!

The next time they come knocking on your door, ask them why they think Jesus PBUH is the son of God. And don't accept "because the Bible says so" as an answer. I gaurantee they will struggle ;) And it's probably the quickest way to make them leave too :biggrin:

Seriously though, these children weren't being forced to do anything. In fact, if there was any forcing going on it was their mother refusing to let them go to the mosque when they wanted (although later she realised it was best to allow them to go). It was the childrens' own choice. So many times I hear people saying children should not be fed religion by their parents when they're growing up, they should be left to make their own decision, which is exactly what these children did - they made their own decision, subhanAllah!

:wasalam:

[Umm Aysha]

Wa alaykum salaam

Oh i dont get these ppl knocking on my door....

:The next time they come knocking on your door, ask them why they think Jesus PBUH is the son of God. And don't accept "because the Bible says so" as an answer. I gaurantee they will struggle ;) And it's probably the quickest way to make them leave too :biggrin:

....but if i did, i will ask them :)

:Seriously though, these children weren't being forced to do anything. In fact, if there was any forcing going on it was their mother refusing to let them go to the mosque when they wanted (although later she realised it was best to allow them to go). It was the childrens' own choice. So many times I hear people saying children should not be fed religion by their parents when they're growing up, they should be left to make their own decision, which is exactly what these children did - they made their own decision, subhanAllah!

I can do a mission and find these kids and ask them if they were forced to go masjid and learn about islam??

wasalaam

[Submitter]

:salam2:

Ahh sister do you live in the area? It would be very interesting to know what the outcome of the story was.

Of whomsoever it is Allah's will to guide, his heart He expands into Islam... (Qur'an, 6:125)

And Allah knows best.

:wasalam:

[Umm Aysha]

Wa alaykum salaam

Its not far from where i live....near where i wrk actually so il definly pop round see if i can track these kids down...

wasalaam

[aicha-moslima]

Salaam alaykoum wa rahmatulahi wa barakatuhoe,

muslima80...i hope you find these kids..not just to ask them but to know them and mayby even help them insha'Allah.

wa salaamoe alaykoum wa rahmatulahi wa barakatuhoe
Aicha

[Mabsoot]

assalamu alaykum

yes, find out how they are doing inshaAllah.

wasalam

[brighten]

:bismillah:

I just managed to read this thread today and I must second my brothers and sisters view. Dear Justice, just to share my own personal experience whilst I was a child of 8 years old and how your churches tried to lure pure innocent minds into the fold of Christianity.

My home was opposite a church and a convent. Every evening the nuns would come out to the playground and call out to us kids. They would distribute sweets and candies, you know stuffs that attract children. Being kids we will flock to take the goodies. I was too young and too naïve to understand their motives. But one evening the sisters told us they were showing a good movie and invited all the children to join in. My friends and I followed the nuns and my first experienced of the convent were petrifying. I was a mere child, too young to understand religion back then. But what amazes me was the feeling of petrified as I walk down the dark alleys of the church. I had a strong urge to leave and quickly went home. Not even the lure of more chocolates and candies could lure me to stay. In fact most of the kids who went that evening relay the same feeling when we talked the next day. On the other hand I had a 12 years old Christian friend who was attracted to Islam just by being friends with us muslims. He was attracted to the beauty of Islam not through preaching but by looking at our daily lifestyle which to him is very peaceful.

What I’m trying to point out here is a child have their own mind. They can identify with their instinct. Don’t blame a child who chose to visit the mosque out of their own free will. The atmosphere in the mosque is the pulling factor. Muslims never try to steal your children. We will never resort to the tricks of chocolates and candies.

Perhaps like what everyone is saying here, you should learn what Islam is. What makes a believer choose and remain to be a muslim till his last breath.

May you have peace.

[cadette]

Not sure, but did anyone notice that both Justice and big T made these single mis-informed comments and we heard nothing from them again. I wish they would actually come back again so we can enducate them and find out from where their ignorance comes.

[mohammad javid]

Myself and English protestant, I find it hard to watch video's of my people turning to islam. I watched a documentry of kid's in bradford who claimed they were muslim.

Stealing our kids right from under our noses. If I took a muslim child and made them believe islam was lie, the muslim community would go crazy!

You may think i'm being racist here i'm really not, I respect your religion, but locally when my town puts up christmas decorations, the council ask us to call them seasonal decorations because they have received complaints, it's just beyond a joke.
Clearly, the Bible predicted and forbade the decoration of [ Christmas] trees in Jeremiah ch. 10 v 2 and 3.

[BintMuhammad]

Myself and English protestant, I find it hard to watch video's of my people turning to islam. I watched a documentry of kid's in bradford who claimed they were muslim.

Stealing our kids right from under our noses. If I took a muslim child and made them believe islam was lie, the muslim community would go crazy!

You may think i'm being racist here i'm really not, I respect your religion, but locally when my town puts up christmas decorations, the council ask us to call them seasonal decorations because they have received complaints, it's just beyond a joke.

talk to ze hand mistah!


:SMILY153: :fighta: :SMILY61:

[Mabsoot]

Assalamu alaykum,

:SMILY303:

[BintMuhammad]

:muslim_child: let's play swing Justice

[Argus]

Myself and English protestant, I find it hard to watch video's of my people turning to islam. I watched a documentry of kid's in bradford who claimed they were muslim.

Stealing our kids right from under our noses. If I took a muslim child and made them believe islam was lie, the muslim community would go crazy!


If you believe that it is hard to see people who were of your religion that turn to Islam, then maybe you should look into your religious beliefs and you will find the same fundamental flaws they did. Only Islam is the truth, from talking to us and reading about our faith, you will know this in time and become a Muslim too one day, Insha'Allah (If God Wills It).

You will find churches so insecure about themselves that they use gimmicks to full the aisles, such as music and movies to keep themselves 'trendy'. No longer is it about worshipping God at the church but instead making sure the rows are filled so the collection plate can be filled. What a lie Christianity has become, falling away from the worship of God to the now lively worship of money.

You should know that these children were not forced into going to the Mosque, no one pushed them to pray, no one made them wear Niqab but they did. Now they are Muslim, Alhamduillah (all praise is due to God) and have chosen the proper path as all humans should realize. I sometimes wish I reverted to Islam at their age, maybe over time my parents would come to realize Islam is the truth as I have learned if I told them about it at a younger age.

[nitewolf]

Hi

Myself and English protestant, I find it hard to watch video's of my people turning to islam. I watched a documentry of kid's in bradford who claimed they were muslim.

I would generally not refer to other muslims as "our people" as that will be categorizing God's creatures superficially. All of us are nothing else but creatures of God that he had chosen to be placed here where we are, and we only know as much as what had been revelaved to us. For God is All Knowing. Every man is born a muslim (free of sins) and it is his duty (through God's gift - our logic) to remain a muslim, or return to the right path before he dies.

Every sane mind, at any one time is his life, would have questioned of his very existence and whether there is a superbeing that created him. That itself is a mercy and blessing from God on us to initiate a search for the truth. For those who sincerely seek, God will guide you in the right direction, Insya'Allah.

Stealing our kids right from under our noses. If I took a muslim child and made them believe islam was lie, the muslim community would go crazy!

If you took a muslim child and made him believe islam was lie, yes, the muslim community would perhaps go crazy. But not because you "took" the child, but more because on what you lied to him about Islam that is not true.

Why don't you share with us why you think Islam is a lie? God has challenged non-believers 1400 years ago and the offer still stands. Does it not interest you at all to challenge the beliefs of 1.2 billion people and be credited for it? Numerous muslim clerics has reached out for inter faith discussions on religion, in particular with christians, but none has been accepted. why? can't afford the publicity?

Surely, the words "Do not ask questions, just believe in what God has said and do not stray away from the truth" does not constitute to a religion of reason. That is contradictory to Islam where there is freedom of choice and logic.

There is no compulsion in Islam and we are not taught by our prophet to entice non-believers into Islam, but instead show them our religion through good deeds, respect for freedom of choice and peace. It is forbidden to discriminate, criticize, lie or hold grudges (however true) as they are unfavourable social ethics that embed hatred and distrust, which violates our pillar of faith of promoting peace. And you can be sure that our practice of bringing up our kids as muslims is not to bad mouth other religions but instead focus on Islam's beauty, reason, logic and complete way of life. And we are not taught to refrain our kids from mingling with other kids of different faiths. We promote tolerance and respect for other religions. Having a islamic state is not a requirement as Islam can be practiced anywhere however remote.


You may think i'm being racist here i'm really not, I respect your religion, but locally when my town puts up christmas decorations, the council ask us to call them seasonal decorations because they have received complaints, it's just beyond a joke.

As you would have read the report of what actually happened, I am yet again disappointed at the hostility muslims get from the media and general public in the West and get blamed without evidence, through skewed misinterpretations and blatant lies. I find it uneasy that you said that you respected our religion but did blame the anonymous complaints on muslims by default and say "it's just beyond a joke".

Only time will reveal the truth and over the last decade, millions of people now have excess to information at the click of a button. As in the past where people have been misguided by what Islam was being mispresented, now people can actually see and read about Islam and it is no suprise that converts to Islam start flowing through the 21st century when the barrier is lifted. This could had been sooner but muslims are neither missionaries nor train missionaries. God would rather for the most of us "not to preach but guide" those who seek, and discover through logic and learning.


Regards

(I hope for brother and sisters in this forum not to post aggressive or criticizing replies but instead discuss these issues productively with tolerance. Wassalam.)

[Hassan Greepaly]

hello mabsoot,
i need help here,i just cant see any of the videos,they just dont appear

thanks

[NewMuslim]

hello mabsoot,
i need help here,i just cant see any of the videos,they just dont appear

thanks
:salam2:
Explore the forums and there are a bunch of links that says "blank video" whereas blank is the topic.

To the OP:
Also, who's stealing children? It seems you are the one who's locking up your children, restricting their freedom of choice and thought. Nobody forced them to believe in Islam, for it seemed to me that they were living comfortable lives before Islam.

[dexter]

I know it hurts to see people of your own sect turning away, but that's been the case here too, for instance once my father needed money for his business and a person told him that he can be helped with a lot of money, as much as he demanded, only that he had to turn to 'Christianity'... So seeing that then it's totally fair since others make use of people's distress that we also seek to guide them in a nobler way...

[kayagila]

Assalamu Alaikum,

I am a new user,I just wanted to point out to "Justice"

"Stealing our kids right from under our noses" is a joke,kids come with their own will!

"I find it hard to watch video's of my people turning to islam"

I think you should rephrase the sentence above.

I don`t know why do find it so difficult to watch people coming to right path! May Allah(Swt) guide you to the right path.

Walaikum Salam
This sentence alone "I find it hard to watch my people turning to Islam" is recist the brother said he isn't May allah guige him to the roght path i mean this from the bottom of my heart

[TheHumbleWun]

YEAH YEAH Islam's the ONLY right path.....

I think the problem could be solved by not allowing children to convert until they're 18 or 19. That they'll have time to think about it first to be sure, and cultivate their beliefs before they take Shahada.

I'm afraid he's right about what would happen if a Muslim child went to a church and tried to convert.

Either way, this thread is kind of dead.... Its been dead for months.

I really don't care if a Muslim converts to another religion. Let them go to a church, that is their CHOICE, but I will tell you this...it is very difficult and you don't see it often, a Muslim converting to another religion. We all have free will and we human beings are all striving for the same thing.

Just curious, how did you come up with 18 or 19 as the standard? I am actually an auditor and tax agent, I tend to question about these kinds of numbers. Why not 30? how do you know if you will see tomorrow?

walakum salaam

"Islam is NOT a race, language, country, group of people, it's a belief and way of life"

[mahdi]

hey i think this looks funny, no no one is stealing any kid, here. and no one is telling them to came to the mosque, they have chose to do that, i think it is their choice. so let them do what they want, if they like the religion they can convert but if they don't that is their choice.

[hussain.mahammed]

Mr. Fabs why dont you just remain away from arguments and concentrate on the aim of why are you in this forum and overall in this world?
You are here to learn more about ISLAM not criticize it. You are in this world to know about the truth, so get to know the truth. You have your own free will. You need to have wisdom and guidance before you can realise for yourself the path of righteousness.
You can continue these kind of baseless arguments for ages without coming to any result. In fact you will remain confused throughout.

[TheHumbleWun]

I think an important reason why one wouldn't convert to another religion from Islam is because:
a. the family wouldn't accept it and might shun you
b. you might find yourself murdered as apostasy is forbidden on punishment of death

(the latter is an extreme case and more common outside of Western countries)


I choose 18 or 19 because I think that's an age where you can look at things more objectively, when you're out of puberty and at the legal age to make decisions for yourself. If you want to convert then, fine then the question of naivety and pressure is cleared up.

What you are saying is relative. You think 18-19 because that is the legal age in the US, which is going by a man made system. Not in every country 18-19 is a "legal" age. In many Islamic countries the legal age is generally once a person hits puberty, which is by the Quran not by a man made system.

You stated in another thread "We live in a secular society so people have the choice to convert to whatever they want."
So why then are you arguing? Live your life, if you are a happy person and you think you have purpose in life then go with it. No one should be worried about others, everybody should worry about themselves, because no one will be by your side in your grave. It's just between you and God. God will only test/question you.

[umm hussain]

Yes just as I say everyone should be able to do what they want with their life, but of course that means once they've come of age and are responsable to make the right decisions. Giving a 12 year old (born into another faith) a Koran and allowing him to take Shahada does not fir into anyone's idea of respansable. Heck I wanted to be an archaelogist when I was 12, that's changed! I'm going on what common sense says not what's in a
document written more than 1000 years ago.

Thank you for your fruitful prediction about my death.

Dont be sarcastic, no one predicted you death, he didnt say when or how you are going to die but just mentioning the inevitable. I will be alone in my grave as well so will billions of others. Death is inevitable, as much as some of us will want to live forever no one actually dies. Every second we are all closer to our graves literally.

Death is one of the things any living thing is going to experience.

[TheHumbleWun]

Yes just as I say everyone should be able to do what they want with their life, but of course that means once they've come of age and are responsable to make the right decisions. Giving a 12 year old (born into another faith) a Koran and allowing him to take Shahada does not fir into anyone's idea of respansable. Heck I wanted to be an archaelogist when I was 12, that's changed! I'm going on what common sense says not what's in a
document written more than 1000 years ago.

Thank you for your fruitful prediction about my death.

you have to understand that not every 12 year old is the same. Especially the 12 year old of yesterday with today. The 12 year old of 1000 years ago was much wiser and smarter than the 12 years old that play his PS3 today.

I am not suggesting anything about your death, death is guaranteed and there is no way to escaping it. Death is the only thing guaranteed in this life. I am saying people shouldn't worry about others turning to Islam, Hindu, Christian, Jew, Buddhist. That is their choice. It's your choice to learn more about Islam. No one is forcing anyone into anything. We have free will.

Common sense??? that's a relative term, you can't define it. You might think something is "common" whereas another does not think so.

[asifeqbal]

wait foe somw year.Then inshallah you will be used to see more white as muslim.

[misalat]

:ma: to all,
great answers given by all brothers and sister ... may Allah guide us all to the right path, Ameen.
:wasalam:

[American Muslim]

sisters, brothers, friends,

we've probably written enough about this thread. Until, ofcourse, the next person who takes offense to that vid pops up, makes the same comment, and then disappears never to be heard from again.

[sugarbb]

Islam is for mankind regardless of your skin colour, age, race, language, ethnic group, culture or nation. By using the words 'your people' you are implying your race, your skin colour is superior to that of others. In christianity, that is wrong, in itself. If you have watched the video properly, you will realize that the mother of those kids have given her consent them to learn at the mosque. When you chose the word 'stolen', it is defined as being taken without consent. See the video again and listen when the mother said she has met the imam and asked if her daughter could join the class again to study Islam. By doing so, the mother has given her consent, without a doubt. There should be no compulsion in religion. Let them accept Islam out of their own free will. I hope you will be curious to know what these children are being taught and InsyaAllah, you might come to realize it too. There certainly is something in Islam so beautiful that these kids are so drawn to it. Come and see it for yourself. May Allah guide us all, InsyaAllah. Peace always.

[msameer]

Folks, Please note that Mr.? Miss.? Justice incited us and just disappeared...May be she(he?) thought that if she(he?) stays and reads all our comments..She (he?) might end up becoming a muslim herself(himself?)

[ProudToBeaMuslim]

Folks, Please note that Mr.? Miss.? Justice incited us and just disappeared...May be she(he?) thought that if she(he?) stays and reads all our comments..She (he?) might end up becoming a muslim herself(himself?)

:jumpclap:

[salmanzaid]

I am a convert ( revert ) to Islam.

My family told me I could fly up to spend time with them,
but my older brother made it a condition I could not
practice Islam - must keep it a secret - while I was there.

I told him that this was pretty impossible, since we pray 5 times a day
and have special food requirements.

And so I have permanently been outcast from my family.
Lost all that support, potentially lost a fortune in inhertiance.
It was the hardest thing I have ever had to do.
It is NOT the ideal - Muhammad commanded us to keep family relations,
but in my own circumstance this just wasn't going to happen.

My dear sir - NOBODY STOLE ME !!!
My decision to embrace Islam was a long process of reading,
deep thought, research and lots of prayer.
I first read Qur'an briefly in high school - and I had a Muslim friend who was kind to me ( I regret I didn't talk with him more about it ).
It was not until recently, at the age of 29 - that I have fully embraced Islam.
This was not a shot-gun decision, it was slow and gradual.

I think the biggest influence in finally reverting was Khalid Yasin lectures.
His explanation & reasoning was just so convincing and in harmony with
what I believed ( I'd love to meet him and thank him ).

NOBODY STOLE ME.

"I made my bed and I will sleep in it".
It is a great regret that I have lost contact with my family,
but I WILL NOT LET GO OF ISLAM for $10,000,000.
I would die for what I believe.

:salah:

Christians have the freedom to propogate their own faith,
they must wake up and smell the coffee that we will do the same.
We will not be stopped.

[Muslim8]

Myself and English protestant, I find it hard to watch video's of my people turning to islam. I watched a documentry of kid's in bradford who claimed they were muslim.

Stealing our kids right from under our noses. If I took a muslim child and made them believe islam was lie, the muslim community would go crazy!

You may think i'm being racist here i'm really not, I respect your religion, but locally when my town puts up christmas decorations, the council ask us to call them seasonal decorations because they have received complaints, it's just beyond a joke.

firstly nobody is going out and looking to "Steal" any child or person.so you need go find out the truth come here and just spreads lie Islam is PEACE get that the MOsque is the place of Allah and where read study so you need watch your mouth and get facts CORRECT BEFORE YOU COME AND TELL LIES
PC renaming of Christmas lights 'an error' IS ERR It looked to me like they had First you must learn more about islam with open heart and i beleive that you excepted islam like a religion for peace and love,but Allah Almity know the best Islam is beautiful. so learn the truth before you come here.

[abo islam]

:salam2: sobhana llah wa laa ilaha illa llah wa llaho akbar:SMILY209:
ikhwani alkorama2
please we want the vedios of ispañoles comvertedos al Islam in language ispañol
:tti_sister: م

[alkathiri]

:salam2: sobhana llah wa laa ilaha illa llah wa llaho akbar:SMILY209:
ikhwani alkorama2
please we want the vedios of ispañoles comvertedos al Islam in language ispañol
:tti_sister: م

:salam2:

Anyone here speaks spanish??
We got a problem here

[aDYiNGdream]

:salam2:

Anyone here speaks spanish??
We got a problem here

:salam2:

I believe he is saying he wants to see videos posted (in the Spanish language) of Hispanics converting to Islam.

:wasalam:

[jakir-bd]

Myself and English protestant, I find it hard to watch video's of my people turning to islam. I watched a documentry of kid's in bradford who claimed they were muslim.

Stealing our kids right from under our noses. If I took a muslim child and made them believe islam was lie, the muslim community would go crazy!

You may think i'm being racist here i'm really not, I respect your religion, but locally when my town puts up christmas decorations, the council ask us to call them seasonal decorations because they have received complaints, it's just beyond a joke.

lol... I guess the same can be said about Christian missionaries who are responsible for converting Muslims to Christianity.

[junaid hasan]

no wonder there are hundred thousend of muslim children are behaving like the christians or following the foot steps of christians.

so what about that?

[abdellah007]

if u measure things that way i have a question to u then : did chritians steal the black africans and turn them into chritianity?

[Irvan]

:salam2:

Wanna know about who's stealing who?

Please come to Aceh province in Indonesia and see how the province whichs called "The Terrace of Mecca" (Because in old days, people 1st go to Aceh before departing to Mecca for Hajj) after the tsunami, now is infected by christians missionaries, trying to convert orphans and those who psychologically devastated for losing everything (wives, husbands, children, parents, possesions, etc).

Ever heard World Help Org. claims of having "rescued" 300 orphans from Aceh Tsunami disaster, to be raised as christians in christian families?

Even they snubed the invitation of the truth from ALLAH himself, when Allah showed His Signs by saving some Masjids (Mosques) from the Tsunami Waves (One surviving Masjid even made of woods and only 10 meters from the beach! Subhannallah!) - you can find it with google, type "tsunami surviving mosque/masjid".

They snubed Allah's Signs by saying, according to some sources ; "Look how unfair your god is, he let his houses standing while he destroyed yours"

True Kafirin with true rejections....

Allah knows best

[abdellah007]

:salam2:



Even they snubed the invitation of the truth from ALLAH himself, when Allah showed His Signs by saving some Masjids (Mosques) from the Tsunami Waves (One surviving Masjid even made of woods and only 10 meters from the beach! Subhannallah!) - you can find it with google, type "tsunami surviving mosque/masjid".

They snubed Allah's Signs by saying, according to some sources ; "Look how unfair your god is, he let his houses standing while he destroyed yours"

True Kafirin with true rejections....

Allah knows best

http://lucidwindow.net/wp/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/tsunami8.jpg

http://www.acehrelief.org/updates/remember_dec26th/image009.jpg

http://lucidwindow.net/wp/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/mosque1.jpg

is there any proof more than this?

[haz_orion]

salam. well, i am a muslim. but to be logical, the houses build in aceh are made out of wood, while the mosques are built in cement.

do not trash me for this, but islam is the most logical religion. i love islam a lot, so don't ever call me a kaffir for saying this. we are no one to judge anyone else, only Allah can make judgement on us. i just don't like follow a religion or anything for that matter blindly. that is why, research is VERY important.

what i'm trying to imply is, many of us muslims make us of such "miracles" without seeing the logical part of it.

even the tsunami is logical (how it was made and all, the scientific part of it, which essentially came forth only with His power). BUT... only He has the power of time to for it to happen.

disasters happen when muslims forget their ways... we muslims have sinned, and that why such tragedy happens. as they always say, it's better for us to be punished now, then later when the punishment is greater on Judgement Day.

and utmostly, when disasters happen, it is a test of our Faith, how we as muslims, should accept His fate (qada' and qadr), all written on Loh Mahfuz.. and how strong we are as muslims. Zain Bhikha sang, "The Heart of a Muslim must be STRONG".

till then, may Allah bless all those in this forum always.

wassalaam.. =)

[Saifu deen]

You should find out the motive behind the video. Reaching a quick conclusion will result in your misunderstanding, which already did. People converting to islam thats Allah's willing and not the Imam, or any individual. People found the beauty of Islam. There is no different between white, black, and other races except in rightousness. We are all brothers and sister.

How many priests, Popes priets,Popes,doctors, scientists, people from all different walks of life, different races, different religions, happily convert to Islam.... Lets not forget many of them had similar idealogy about islams and muslims, but guess what many converted to islam. If you want to know the reason, why 1.5 million Americans converted to islam specially after 9/11 (9/11 suppose to make the world hate Islam, but why the neighbours of the twin towers, employees, the Amercian public accept Islam)...


I hope you find the asnwers if you are happy to read about islam. May Allah guide you Justice!!!!!!....

[Irvan]

salam. well, i am a muslim. but to be logical, the houses build in aceh are made out of wood, while the mosques are built in cement.

do not trash me for this, but islam is the most logical religion. i love islam a lot, so don't ever call me a kaffir for saying this. we are no one to judge anyone else, only Allah can make judgement on us. i just don't like follow a religion or anything for that matter blindly. that is why, research is VERY important.

what i'm trying to imply is, many of us muslims make us of such "miracles" without seeing the logical part of it.


:salam2:

Have you ever been to aceh before? not all of the houses made of wood, of course it depends on the social-economic status of the owner, but at the time tsunami struck, even some houses in small villages made of bricks and cement and all similar material they use to build the mosque.

If you look carefully to the 3rd picture on brother abdellah007 post you can see the foundations left from bricks and cement made houses, some of them are covered by mud, but the square shape pattern surrounding the mosques are from the house foundations, as most of mosques here are usually placed as the centre of housing area. Wooden houses don't use foundations like that.

As for the 2nd picture is from a place called Ulhee Lheu, a more than 100 years old mosque called Baiturrahim, at the waterfront of Banda Aceh; Aceh province capital, which took direct hit from the tsunami waves. Like most capital cities of provinces in Indonesia, houses are made of bricks and cement.

And how about the wooden mosque in Meuleboh which only 10 meters from the beach which left without any significant damage while most of surrounding vilages are gone? (sorry, got no links or picture but i saw it on tv many times here in Indonesia)

Of course as muslims we believe there are logical parts behind everything, as Allah The Most High had made the universe based on logical patterns, we here in Indonesia don't take the examples shown blindly, but only to witness the Signs from ALLAH! for our iman shake, and as someone with technical background i also believe; Allah saves those mosques through somekind "natural" mechanism, for example, maybe; Allah knows best, when the wave hit the waterfront mosque, the vector's resultant of that part of the lining waves were pointing not directly to the mosque because of the circulation in it, hence the "weight" of all forces didn't directly hit the mosque, thus it survived. Or because the mosque usually in the centre of housing complex, force of the wave had weaken when it hit the mosque after "depreciated" from the friction through the maze of houses, or any other explanations similar to that, although till now not many people start to make formal research about it.

And still, it is Allah creation of natural systems and mechanisms which save the surviving mosques, but instead, if i insist that there was a jinn guarding the mosques hence they survived, i'll be happy to be called having a blind faith and unlogic...although it might be a chance that ALLAH commanded the muslim jinns to guard them, Allah knows the unseen best...

The logical parts of the surviving mosques of Aceh;

1. While surviving and destroyed mosques in Aceh are the facts, statistically, the surviving mosques are the deviation from a normal curve of destroyed mosques population in Aceh.
2. In human understanding, if we apply the tremendous force like tsunami waves to all buildings directly, we may think those buildings will collapse instantly, but in Aceh case there were mosques survived while the others and surrounding buildings were destroyed, this is as a proof of the existance of the greatest power of all powers in the universe, which capable to save some "fragile-helpless" buildings and such commanding power which able choose those who are saved or not from great disastrous power like tsunami waves.
3. Eventually, statement no 2 leads to the proof of the existance of Allah and no other gods but Him.

Al Quran, Al An'aam, 65

Say: "He hath power to send calamities on you, from above and below, or to cover you with confusion in party strife, giving you a taste of mutual vengeance - each from the other." See how We explain the signs by various (symbols); that they may understand.

Speak know for those who think that 1,2,3 are logically incorrect...

With all respects, unlike muslims, maybe (for example) christians are having difficulties to understand the signs thoroughly, from such great calamities like tsunami, because by having a picture in their heart and mind of a human god, which couldnt help himself from being crusified and killed by his own creation (the romans & jews according to their story), let alone helping human being from great disaster like tsunami.

How disturbing is that, having a picture of god which as vulnarable as his creations?

Well, this what i call logically incorrect, if christians told that Jesus "the man" has saved the mosques, instead of The Almighty Allah, as the Signs of His Greatness...

Like Yusuf Estes said; "in Islam, you got proof as well as faith, and the more you have one, the more you have the other..."

Allah knows best

Wassalam

[salehya]

Asalamu alycom !
fristly i wanna ask the "justice" member - it is not from the islam tradotion to "steal" children or adults ! our job as a muslim is to invite the people , n clarify to them the truth path which is the Allah's (god) path - because our islam says - do not coerece any human to accept the islam religion , but via the kidness , smootheness ,proofs ,facts , knowledge , senerity and guidence to the islam path - so how did you decided that the muslims steal the children to be muslims ?
but let you knowmy sister ! that you posted that , due to your previous stereotypes toward the islam n the muslims - that islam is compulsion , is coereceness , but and a affirm to you that the truth of islam is opened to all the mankind , so you are also invited to read n to know about islam , n do'nt be relied to the stereotypes nor newspapers nor magazine !
secondly , the pshycologists aprooved that - sometimes it is very hard to convince the child to do somthing , n somtimes it's easy - did you think for a moment - why did the kids accept the islam , not the buddism nor jewdism nor hindusim nor other religion , and why did the kids parents didn't complain or reject the fact their kids become a muslims !
and what you mean about " to steal " ? - my sister to steal it means to wash the kids brains , that naturely the kids have unstable opinions to accept manners or not !
my sister when i saw the word " to steal " i melted into tears , because the islam doesn't command us to do things kike that , that's not our job , our job to approch the people to islam whereby desireness not compulsion - if you desire to accept islam it is a blessing from god , n if you don't that's your opinion , no one can coerece you !
may Allah guide you to the islam, n, make your heart is opened to the great ISLAM !

[a point of me]

hi brothers and sisters. i just want to say that child is born innate and his parents shape him to the way they are lived in either christians, boduisiom or muslims.. those kids whom you watch in the video are like all children in the world. Islam is imprinted in them and what makes it applicable is that their mother allows them. and make sure children follow who creat them. so who creat you?????

[ahmed82]

no one is stealing your children it is not a territorial fight .these children wanted to know about islam within their hearts they found that it was worthier than christianity .you must look at the positive side they might grow up as excellent students , who shun alcohol,drugs,pork ,*!*!*!*!ography and fornication thats what makes our religion special it teaches us that God cares for us because he offers his guide in a world sometimes beyond our understanding with loss of identity and squeezed under peer group pressure to drink smoke or become preganent before 15 we are not intrested from where u r whether u r a revert or not a muslim brother and sister are our brother and sister in faith and that is enough for us.islam is the way of peace it teaches us to confront challenges and difficulties knowing that God will help us , guide us and protect us.read and study islam and then you can make your judgement

[Skeese]

What happened to the original poster ??? :SMILY346:

[Amir_of_spain]

Stealing our kids right from under our noses. If I took a muslim child and made them believe islam was lie, the muslim community would go crazy!

This is statement is full of ignorance. I also watched the programe when it was first hired on terresterial tv. First thing you need to realise is the white kids in question just went to mosque ie sunday school, for basic arabic vocal learning and the main reason for doing this is so that they would join their friends and feel more part of their community. So it was for fun/educational reason, a past time, post school activity, thats all.

I watched a documentry of kid's in bradford who claimed they were muslim

They weren't even muslims, they didn't claim to be, at no point did any of them say i have converted to islam, all they did is went to learn basic arabic. No one forced them and the parent's consent was given so hows this stealing them?

[I]Myself and English protestant, I find it hard to watch video's of my people turning to islam.

If your a truely tolerant person you wouldnt feel this way. There is always a small population of people in every country who convert, and this works in all directions for each religion.

You may think i'm being racist here i'm really not, I respect your religion

Your post sounded intolerant to muslims as if were christain cradle snatchers which is clearly not the case in the video, children and parents were freely welcomed to send their child to learn about other about culture/faith and could stop it anytime.

but locally when my town puts up christmas decorations, the council ask us to call them seasonal decorations because they have received complaints, it's just beyond a joke.

Huh, this has got nothing to do with muslims. No muslim ever said we should change the term xmas decorations to seasonal, no faith group called for this, so don't blame the muslim community for a wrong decision/idea made by a council member. Muslims allow christains to celebrate christmas in arab-muslim countries for centuries now so why would we object to in a predominately christain country?

[cmelbouzaidi]

Dear Sir, I think most of your complaint is because of underlying fear and ignorance, that is human nature. As others suggest, turn this into an opportunity to learn about Islam yourself and even attend a sermon or class at the mosque to put your fears to rest. If you go in with an eagerness to learn, you may be pleasantly surprised. So often, we can learn so much from children and this is a good example, Masha Allah.

[Islam!!yay]

I just had to post on this issue...today is the first day I have even seen this or I would have posted on this sooner. What you say is an out and out lie....chrisitans EVERYDAY try to convert muslim children to chrisitanity....so you cannot say this.....some even go door to door trying to get people to believe your way is right. I have never once seen a muslim come up to me in the street or the mall trying to get me to revert to Islam...but I have seen many a chrisitan do this......when children come up to other children asking about their faith all they do is tell them...NO MUSLIM tries to pull someone away from their fathers faith. However, I am right now dealing with 2 teenage children who reverted to Islam after hearing about it on the internet. Muslims do have educational web sites up to teach people about the truth of our faith in light of current world events and media slander. This is how most people revert to Islam..is through educational web sites... Allah swt puts it in the hearts of some to learn more about Islam despite what is said about it in the media and they end up coming to Allah and Islam.. alhumdullilah! All praise be to God! So you cannot feel truly in your heart that these things you say even resemble truth! This is all I have to say on the matter and please forgive me for sounding offensive in any way but your thought process is simply not understandable! Im sure you've dealt with Jehovas witnesses or baptists or numerous other sects of christians trying to tell you about jesus... and they are even more persistant with the young! So please open your heart and your eyes and see what goes on around you before judge others!
salaam


Yeah true story ....... days before christmas some guy in the mall tried to convert me

[Shahzad]

very strange statement by Mr. Justice.
WE respect all non muslims, whether they are racist or not and we havent stole any thing from any one.
Its just the ppl when stuyd islam, they auto0matically adopt it. Wat can we do :)

[bawang]

[QUOTE=zarah;2298]:salam2:

I just wanted to point out to "Justice"

"Stealing our kids right from under our noses" is a joke,kids come with their own will!

"I find it hard to watch video's of my people turning to islam"


firstly, i was shocked when i read that statement..i never hear or even read such statement. that means "him or her" do not respect other people religion. in my country, people live in harmony even there is a lot typs of religion live in here (christ, Buddhist,Hindu,shikh and even no relegion). SORRY TO SAY I HAVE A VERY POOR ENGLISH..I HOPE SOMEONE CAN HELP ME TO IMPROVE MY ENGLISH..thanx. - Mua`salamah-:salam2:

[cmelbouzaidi]

Also, I wanted to point out to Justice as he says he is a Protestant a little history from Ireland, my birthplace. Protestants converted Catholics during the time of the Irish Famine by only giving those who accepted Protestantism a bowl of soup.... hence these converts to Protestantism became known as "soupies"..... These days for every 1 visitor with a mission to actually help people in the poorest countries of the world, there are 10 more with one mission, to convert those people to Christianity.

[xSharingan01x]

I am a convert ( revert ) to Islam.

My family told me I could fly up to spend time with them,
but my older brother made it a condition I could not
practice Islam - must keep it a secret - while I was there.

I told him that this was pretty impossible, since we pray 5 times a day
and have special food requirements.

And so I have permanently been outcast from my family.
Lost all that support, potentially lost a fortune in inhertiance.
It was the hardest thing I have ever had to do.
It is NOT the ideal - Muhammad commanded us to keep family relations,
but in my own circumstance this just wasn't going to happen.

My dear sir - NOBODY STOLE ME !!!
My decision to embrace Islam was a long process of reading,
deep thought, research and lots of prayer.
I first read Qur'an briefly in high school - and I had a Muslim friend who was kind to me ( I regret I didn't talk with him more about it ).
It was not until recently, at the age of 29 - that I have fully embraced Islam.
This was not a shot-gun decision, it was slow and gradual.

I think the biggest influence in finally reverting was Khalid Yasin lectures.
His explanation & reasoning was just so convincing and in harmony with
what I believed ( I'd love to meet him and thank him ).

NOBODY STOLE ME.

"I made my bed and I will sleep in it".
It is a great regret that I have lost contact with my family,
but I WILL NOT LET GO OF ISLAM for $10,000,000.
I would die for what I believe.

:salah:

Christians have the freedom to propogate their own faith,
they must wake up and smell the coffee that we will do the same.
We will not be stopped.

Shoaib

Massallah!!
How courages you're!
May Allah bless you out of his bounty.

p.s. Those Jehovas witnesses! I think I've been visited by them at least 10 or 15 times in my new place.
They are so nice and stuff, but I just tell them that I'm muslim, and my believe in god is manifest, so they shouldn't waste their time :D
Perhaps too harsh. Oh well.

Wylaikum,

shoaib

[sohaibkhan]

My Muslim pride
I will not hide
My Muslim race
I will not disgrace
My Muslim blood
flows hot & true
My Muslim peeps
I will stand by you
through thick & thin
till the day we die
Our islamic flags
Always stands so high
I yell this poem
Louder than all the rest
cuz every 1 knows
WE Muslimz ARE THE BEST!!!