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TWAHA
08-30-2007, 11:16 AM
Dear Brothers and Sisters

From the compilation of Riyaad us saaliheen i have quoted this hadith:
1751. Abu Hurairah (May Allah be pleased with him) said: The Prophet (PBUH) said, "Does he who raises up his head before the Imam not fear that Allah will make his head that of a donkey or make his appearance similar to that of donkey?''
[Al-Bukhari and Muslim].

i would like anyone to clear my doubts on one issue:
normally the Imam during the salah can utter "Allahuackbar" either before the action, during the action or after the action. I was in prayer and the brother next to me made the action for the sajdah before the imam uttered "Allahuackbar". Can "Does he who raises up his head before the Imam " imply that every action of the jamaat following the Imam shall be done after he says "Allahuackbar". if in the event that the Imam says "Allahuackbar" during the action or after the action, are the followers allowed to start the action before the Imam says "Allahuackbar".

Are there some other more detailed hadith references dealing with the above. I personally find that this practice is not good but I cannot tell this brother of his action unless my doubt is cleared.

kind help needed

JazaakAllah kheir

virtualeye
08-30-2007, 11:43 AM
AssalaamuAlaikum WRWB,

Please ask the Imam to announce about the Hadith so that the brother can also come to know its not good to precede Imam.

I dont remember refereces of Ahadith, but according Ahadith and method of companions of Prophet SAW:

The comparnions of Prophet SAW used to see the Imam went to Sajdah then they followed. The principle I read in this case is that, either Imam's action is complete and after that you start following, or his takbeer is complete and then you start following. At least one method should be followed. Ofcourse the good method of syncronization is that , the imam has completed his action and said takbeer so the people must start their action behind.



For example,
An Imam has put his forehead on ground and has completed his takbeer also, then you start your action to follow him.
OR
an Imam has completely gone to Sajdah, but still saying takbeer (in a long manner) then you can start following him.
OR
If Imam has completed saying "Allahu Akbar" but has not yet completely touched his forehead to the ground, then you start your action (going for sajdah).

All above cases are valid, but if Imam has not yet completed any of his action+takbeer, then Muqtadee's prayer might go wasted (which is referred in the hadith you mentioned that Allah SWT will turn him foolish like donkeys, which is I think more dangerous than just wasting one prayer )


Ok, here I found two thread about Errors in prayer, and about method of Prophet's prayer:

http://www.turntoislam.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9938

http://www.turntoislam.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9229


Wassalaam