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ayman1
06-05-2007, 06:20 PM
28. What was the dowry Moses paid to marry Shu`aib's daughter?

29. Where in the Quran do you find evidence that Pharaohs were not ruling Egypt at the time of Joseph? Historians think that it was the period when the Hyksos invaded Egypt around 1670 B.C.

30. Where do you find in the Quran implication that the calendar of the Jews was changed from solar (Gregorian) to lunar?

Albint_Almuslima
06-05-2007, 10:48 PM
28. What was he dowry Moses paid to marry Shu`aib's daughter?

When Moses, while escaping from Egypt, reached the well of Madyan he took pity on the daughters of Shu'aib, who were standing in a corner with their sheep and nobody was paying any attention to them. Moses drew water for them. The girls, on returning home, told the story to their father who sent one of them back to Moses and invited him to his house. Having been introduced to each other, Shu'aib said to Moses one day: "I would like to give one of my daughters to you in marriage on the condition that you work for me for eight years. If you like, you may work for two years more in all 10 years". Moses accepted the offer and became Shu'aib's son-in-law.

Albint_Almuslima
06-05-2007, 11:40 PM
29. Where in the Quran do you find evidence that Pharaohs were not ruling Egypt at the time of Joseph? Historians think that it was the period when the Hexos invaded Egypt around 1670 B.C.



In the 20th century B.C., during the time of the Prophet Joseph, the Children of Israel entered Egypt. Seven centuries later they left Egypt along with Moses, crossing over into the Sinai Peninsula. These events are mentioned in both the Bible, and the Qur’an. But, while the account in the Qur’an is entirely consistent with external history, the Bible relates several incidents which do not correspond to historical records. This has created problems for believers in the Bible. Should they accept what is written in the Bible, or should they go by history? Since the two contradict one another, they cannot accept both at the same time.

On January 12, 1985, a gathering was held in the Indian Institute of Islamic Studies at Tughlaqabad in New Delhi, which was addressed by Ezra Kolet, president of the Council of Indian Jewry. His topic was: ‘What is Judaism?’ Naturally, he dealt with Jewish history in his talk, mentioning, among other things, the Jew’s entrance into and exodus from Egypt. The names of both Joseph and Moses figured in his talk as well as the kings who were ruling in Egypt in their respective times. For both kings, the contemporaries of Joseph and Moses, he used the term ‘Pharaoh.’

As everyone acquainted with the period knows, this nomenclature is historically incorrect. The reign of the kings known as Pharaohs did not begin until the time of Moses: in Joseph’s day, a different line of monarchs ruled in Egypt.
When Joseph entered Egypt, the kings of a dynasty known as the Hyksos were in power. They were ethnically Arabs, and had usurped the Egyptian throne, reigning from 2000 B.C. until the end of the 15th century B.C. at which time the indigenous population rebelled against foreign rule, thus bringing the Hyksos dynasty to an end.

Home rule was then established in Egypt. The clan that took over sovereignty chose for itself the name of Pharaoh, which literally means son of the sun-god, for in those days Egyptians worshipped the sun, and in order to vindicate their right to rule over the Egyptians, they made themselves out to be incarnations of the sun-god.

In effect, Mr. Kolet was calling the Hyksos Kings, Pharaohs. He had no option in this, for that is what they are called in the Bible, with reference to both Joseph’s and Moses’ respective periods. The Jewish speaker could either accept the Bible or history, but not both simultaneously. Since he was speaking in his capacity as president of the Jewish Council, he put history aside and based his talk on biblical accounts.

But in the Qur’an we do not find accounts which clash with history in this way, and those who follow the Qur’an are not compelled to forsake history in order to uphold their Holy Book. When the Qur’an was revealed, people had no knowledge of ancient Egyptian history. Only in later years did archeological excavations make it possible for Egyptologists to compile a record of the history of that country’s ancient kings.

Even so, the Qur’an mentions the Egyptian monarch who was a contemporary of Joseph, and refers to him by the title, of ‘King of Egypt.’ As for the king who ruled in Moses’ day, the Qur’an repeatedly calls him Pharaoh. We thus have a Qur’anic account that corresponds exactly with historical facts, unlike the biblical account which is historically inaccurate. This shows that the Qur’an was written without recourse to human sources of knowledge, by One who had direct access to the Truth.

farhopes
06-06-2007, 02:01 PM
30. Where do you find in the Quran implication that the calendar of the Jews was changed from solar (Gregorian) to lunar?

This one is tough, brother. However, I have some feeling, but I'm not sure.

Is it the versein Surat Ibrahim, verse 5.

If it is not, I think I need a hint, if you don't mind.

farhopes
06-06-2007, 02:02 PM
30. Where do you find in the Quran implication that the calendar of the Jews was changed from solar (Gregorian) to lunar?

This one is tough, brother. However, I have some feeling, but I'm not sure.

Is it in Surat Ibrahim, verse 5?
If it is not, I think I need a hint, if you don't mind.

farhopes
06-06-2007, 02:17 PM
30. Where do you find in the Quran implication that the calendar of the Jews was changed from solar (Gregorian) to lunar?

This one is tough, brother. However, I have some feeling, but I'm not sure.

Is it in Surat Ibrahim, verse 5?
If it is not, I think I need a hint, if you don't mind.

ayman1
06-06-2007, 03:28 PM
Exactly, sister Albint Almuslima :) Thank you for the elaboration, the history and the discussion of biblical inconsistency.

ayman1
06-06-2007, 03:34 PM
Is it the versein Surat Ibrahim, verse 5.


Not a bad guess, sister Amany, but it's not the right answer. The verse you have in mind refers to "God's days" (Ayyaamullah) and the scholars have written that these are the days of God's punishment of rejecting tribes of the past, such as Aad and Thamood.

Only hint I can give you that won't make the answer too obvious is that the change of calendar went unknown to a few Jews for quite a long time. Hope you get it ;)

Mohsin
06-08-2007, 10:36 AM
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Brother Ayman I am waiting for the answer.

farhopes
06-08-2007, 12:50 PM
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Brother Ayman I am waiting for the answer.


Me too. I cant get it till now :SMILY23:

ayman1
06-08-2007, 02:43 PM
Answer to quiz 30:

"And they stayed in their cave three hundred years and they increased by nine." (18:26) 300 years of the Gregorian calendar corespond to 309 years of the lunar calendar, so the verse implies that the change of calendar from Gregorian to lunar occurred while the people of the cave were vast asleep!

Mohsin
06-08-2007, 03:03 PM
:salam2:
:ma: Brilliant ! , what else can i say.
Answer to quiz 30:

"And they stayed in their cave three hundred years and they increased by nine." (18:26) 300 years of the Gregorian calendar corespond to 309 years of the lunar calendar, so the verse implies that the change of calendar from Gregorian to lunar occurred while the people of the cave were vast asleep!

farhopes
06-08-2007, 06:11 PM
Answer to quiz 30:

"And they stayed in their cave three hundred years and they increased by nine." (18:26) 300 years of the Gregorian calendar corespond to 309 years of the lunar calendar, so the verse implies that the change of calendar from Gregorian to lunar occurred while the people of the cave were vast asleep!


I had no idea about that. Thanks a lot, brother. :ma:

That was really new and informative.