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farhopes
05-12-2007, 06:06 PM
1-Which verse of the Qur'an proves the scientific fact that there is no air high in the sky and no one can breathe there?
2- In which verses are the stages of creating the man inside the womb mentioned?
3-Which verse proves the fact that the embryo is surrounded by 3 layers?

Jihan
05-12-2007, 07:03 PM
2. We created man from an extract of clay. Then We made him as a drop in a place of settlement, firmly fixed. Then We made the drop into an alaqah (leech, suspended thing, and blood clot), then We made the alaqah into a mudghah (chewed substance)... 1 (Quran, 23:12-14)

alkathiri
05-13-2007, 12:54 AM
:salam2:

1)And whomsoever Allah wills to guide, He opens his breast to Islam, and whomsoever He wills to send astray, He makes his breast closed and constricted, as if he is climbing up to the sky. Thus Allah puts the wrath on those who believe not.
( سورة الأنعام , Al-Anaam, Chapter #6, Verse #125)

2)Thereafter We made him (the offspring of Adam) as a Nutfah (mixed drops of the male and female sexual discharge) (and lodged it) in a safe lodging (womb of the woman).
( سورة المؤمنون , Al-Mumenoon, Chapter #23, Verse #13)

3)While He has created you in (different) stages (i.e. first Nutfah, then Alaqah and then Mudghah, see (VV.23:13,14) the Quran).
( سورة نوح , Nooh, Chapter #71, Verse #14)

farhopes
05-13-2007, 01:55 PM
:salam2:
[QUOTE]
1)And whomsoever Allah wills to guide, He opens his breast to Islam, and whomsoever He wills to send astray, He makes his breast closed and constricted, as if he is climbing up to the sky. Thus Allah puts the wrath on those who believe not.
( سورة الأنعام , Al-Anaam, Chapter #6, Verse #125)


That's right, brother :ma:

farhopes
05-13-2007, 01:59 PM
2. We created man from an extract of clay. Then We made him as a drop in a place of settlement, firmly fixed. Then We made the drop into an alaqah (leech, suspended thing, and blood clot), then We made the alaqah into a mudghah (chewed substance)... 1 (Quran, 23:12-14)
That's right, thank you, dear sister:ma:

farhopes
05-13-2007, 02:04 PM
3)While He has created you in (different) stages (i.e. first Nutfah, then Alaqah and then Mudghah, see (VV.23:13,14) the Quran).
( سورة نوح , Nooh, Chapter #71, Verse #14
I mean another verse in which Allah mentioned the three layers not the stages

MUHAMMAD_SHAIKH
05-13-2007, 02:12 PM
assalam alikum islamic family

well I am a few days older here.I wonder how to post a new thread?:confused:

warm regards,
Muhammad

MUHAMMAD_SHAIKH
05-13-2007, 02:13 PM
assalam alikum islamic family

well I am a few days old here.I wonder how to post a new thread?:confused:

warm regards,
Muhammad

farhopes
05-13-2007, 02:55 PM
assalam alikum islamic family

well I am a few days older here.I wonder how to post a new thread?:confused:

warm regards,
Muhammad
Welcome brother, that's easy, brother; at the top,on the left of each main page, for example, the Islamic Discussion, you will find the white icon" New Thread". All you have to do is to click onthat icon and type your post and click "submit thread"

abdallahbilal
05-13-2007, 08:03 PM
I mean another verse in which Allah mentioned the three layers not the stages


Allah (swt) says --translation of meaning--
He has created you from a single being, then made its mate of the same (kind), and He has made for you eight of the cattle in pairs. He creates you in the wombs of your mothers-- a creation after a creation-- in triple darkness; that is Allah your Lord, His is the kingdom; there is no god but He; whence are you then turned away? (39:6)

farhopes
05-13-2007, 09:14 PM
Allah (swt) says --translation of meaning--
He has created you from a single being, then made its mate of the same (kind), and He has made for you eight of the cattle in pairs. He creates you in the wombs of your mothers-- a creation after a creation-- in triple darkness; that is Allah your Lord, His is the kingdom; there is no god but He; whence are you then turned away? (39:6)

That's right,:ma:

sunshine
05-26-2007, 05:16 AM
Which verses of the Quran state or hint at the following scientific facts?

4. That clouds are made up of layers.
5. That all living creatures have organized communities.
6. That all creatures have their own communication mechanism.
7. That a fertilized egg starts life clinging to the wall of the womb.

“There is not an animal (That lives) on the earth, Nor a being that flies On its wings, but (forms Part of) communities like you. ” (Al-Quran 6:38)

farhopes
05-26-2007, 10:39 AM
4- (10) See you not that Allah drives the clouds gently, then joins them together, then makes them into a heap of layers, and you see the rain comes forth from between them. And He sends down from the sky hail (like) mountains, (or there are in the heaven mountains of hail from where He sends down hail), and strike therewith whom He will, and averts it from whom He wills. The vivid flash of its (clouds) lightning nearly blinds the sight. (Tafsir At-Tabaree).
( سورة النور , An-Noor, Chapter #24, Verse #43)

farhopes
05-26-2007, 09:26 PM
6. That all creatures have their own communication mechanism.


(3) See you not (O Muhammad SAW) that Allah, He it is Whom glorify whosoever is in the heavens and the earth, and the birds with wings out-spread (in their flight). Of each one He (Allah) knows indeed his Salat (prayer) and his glorification, (or everyone knows his Salat (prayer) and his glorification), and Allah is All-Aware of what they do.
( سورة النور , An-Noor, Chapter #24, Verse #41)

farhopes
05-30-2007, 04:59 PM
7. That a fertilized egg starts life clinging to the wall of the womb


(9) Then We made the Nutfah into a clot (a piece of thick coagulated blood), then We made the clot into a little lump of flesh, then We made out of that little lump of flesh bones, then We clothed the bones with flesh, and then We brought it forth as another creation. So blessed be Allah, the Best of creators.
( سورة المؤمنون , Al-Mumenoon, Chapter #23, Verse #14)

farhopes
05-30-2007, 06:20 PM
. That life cannot exist without water.


(42) Have not those who disbelieve known that the heavens and the earth were joined together as one united piece, then We parted them? And We have made from water every living thing. Will they not then believe?
( سورة الأنبياء , Al-Anbiya, Chapter #21, Verse #30)

farhopes
05-30-2007, 06:25 PM
9. That river and sea can meet but not mix.


(1) He has let loosed the two seas (the salt water and the sweet) meeting together. Between them is a barrier which none of them can transgress.
( سورة الرحمن , Al-Rahman, Chapter #55, Verse #19)

farhopes
05-30-2007, 06:33 PM
10. That earth mass decreases.


(2) See they not that We gradually reduce the land (of disbelievers, by giving it to the believers, in war victories) from its outlying borders. And Allah judges, there is none to put back His Judgement and He is Swift at reckoning.
( سورة الرعد , Ar-Rad, Chapter #13, Verse #41)

41 أَوَلَمْ يَرَوْاْ أَنَّا نَأْتِي الأَرْضَ نَنقُصُهَا مِنْ أَطْرَافِهَا وَاللّهُ يَحْكُمُ لاَ مُعَقِّبَ لِحُكْمِهِ وَهُوَ سَرِيعُ الْحِسَابِ

farhopes
05-31-2007, 07:07 PM
11. That the universe is expanding.

(5) With power did We construct the heaven. Verily, We are Able to extend the vastness of space thereof.
( سورة الذاريات , Adh-Dhariyat, Chapter #51, Verse #47)

(1) وَالسَّمَاءَ بَنَيْنَاهَا بِأَيْدٍ وَإِنَّا لَمُوسِعُونَ

farhopes
05-31-2007, 07:19 PM
12. That the orbits of the sun and the moon do not intersect.

(13) وَهُوَ الَّذِي خَلَقَ اللَّيْلَ وَالنَّهَارَ وَالشَّمْسَ وَالْقَمَرَ كُلٌّ فِي فَلَكٍ يَسْبَحُونَ

And He it is Who has created the night and the day, and the sun and the moon, each in an orbit floating.
( سورة الأنبياء , Al-Anbiya, Chapter #21, verse 33 )

farhopes
06-01-2007, 09:37 AM
The verse is the correct answer! However, the explanation you have between parentheses is only one interpretation of what "earth reduction" means. I find it a far fetched interpretation. A more likely interpretation in my humble opinion is the increasing scientific observation that earth mass is slowly shrinking.



That's exactly what I also think.
The explanation between the parentheses is added to the verse as I found it in " searchtruth". I didn't like to delete it.

farhopes
06-01-2007, 09:55 AM
Not quite. This establishes the two orbits but does not lead to the conclusion that they do not intersect. I'm sure you'll figure the verse I'm thinking of ;)

Hope this is the right answer. If it's not, you tell me becauseI don't know.



(5) لَا الشَّمْسُ يَنبَغِي لَهَا أَن تُدْرِكَ الْقَمَرَ وَلَا اللَّيْلُ سَابِقُ النَّهَارِ وَكُلٌّ فِي فَلَكٍ يَسْبَحُونَ

(2) It is not permitted to the sun to catch up the Moon, nor can the Night outstrip the Day: Each (just) swims along in (its own) orbit (according to Law).
( سورة يس , Ya Seen, Chapter #36, Verse #40)

farhopes
06-01-2007, 04:18 PM
You got it! I knew you would :) The key word is "catch up."


Alhamdulillah. That's of His bounty.

Thank you, brother Ayman for encouraging me and for the very enjoyable quizzes.

farhopes
06-05-2007, 01:23 AM
Which verses of the Quran state or hint at the following scientific facts?

13- That our skin is responsible for sensation.

14- That the earth is round or globular.

15- That the land of the earth consists of seven layers.

16- That there are some stars that are responsible for cleaning and sweeping the sky

farhopes
06-05-2007, 03:39 PM
Inshaa Allah there will be a good prize for the one who gets them all right.

abdullah1111
06-05-2007, 06:27 PM
asslamoaykom

i love science but i dont Know those verses

farhopes
06-05-2007, 10:57 PM
Quote:
14- That the earth is round or globular.

I remeber Sheikh Shaarawi, God bless his soul, quoting the verse, "And the earth after that He ground it" (79:30) to be implying that the earth is both flat surfaced and round shaped. The stone that people use for grinding wheet is round so that it can be constantly rotated to do the grinding yet flat surfaced so that the grinding can take place. Is that the verse you had in mind?

I'm afraid this isn't the verse I mean. However, the one I mean was also explained by Sheikh Shaarawi, my favourite scholar regarding that.

The verse he quoted was: 7 وَالْأَرْضَ مَدَدْنَاهَا وَأَلْقَيْنَا فِيهَا رَوَاسِيَ وَأَنبَتْنَا فِيهَا مِن كُلِّ زَوْجٍ بَهِيجٍ
(2) And the earth! We have spread it out, and set thereon mountains standing firm, and have produced therein every kind of lovely growth (plants).
( سورة ق , Qaf, Chapter #50, Verse #7) "

He said that wherever you go, you find the land stretched along before you, there is no end of that. It's land extended forever. That has one meaning that the Earth is round simply because it has no exact end.

farhopes
06-05-2007, 11:09 PM
16- That there are some stars that are responsible for cleaning and sweeping the sky

This one is tough! I have to think about it.


I'll give you a hint. Do you know Dr. Zaghloul Al-Nagar?

He talked about that. It's a verse in which Allah swears of some of His signs swimming in the sky.

Try to think of it. I wanna give you the prize :wink:

Mohsin
06-06-2007, 09:38 AM
:salam2:

I think the verse that brother Ayman gave in support of earth being round and globular is nearer to the idea. I found some info regarding that word used in that verse i.e. 79:30
The word here used in this verse to describe earth is 'DAHAHA'
Now here is what i found and i once heard the same from Zakir Naik too.

In the following ample Arabic and English vocabularies below, it is clear that the Arabic word "Dah" refers to:
1- An egg or spherical shape.
2- A squatted (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?r=2&q=squatted), dumpy (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/dumpy), pushed down or pressed spherical object.
3- A circular motion.
For the details you can check this link,
http://www.answering-christianity.com/egg-shaped_earth.htm


Anyways I still want my brother to get the prize so I'm not gonna answer the last one .....:biggrin:

P.S. Note for brother Ayman ---- After you get the prize I would claim my share :SMILY126:

farhopes
06-06-2007, 11:48 AM
:salam2:

I think the verse that brother Ayman gave in support of earth being round and globular is nearer to the idea. I found some info regarding that word used in that verse i.e. 79:30
The word here used in this verse to describe earth is 'DAHAHA'
Now here is what i found and i once heard the same from Zakir Naik too.


Anyways I still want my brother to get the prize so I'm not gonna answer the last one .....:biggrin:

P.S. Note for brother Ayman ---- After you get the prize I would claim my share :SMILY126:


You are right, brother. According to your search, brother Ayman's answer is right.

As for the prize, of course you and everyone can share it :) as my prize will be from the Paradise.:wink:

Mohsin
06-06-2007, 03:04 PM
:salam2:

Ooooooh so, we arent going to get anything here in this world ???

Sister Allah SWT said in the Quran,

But you prefer the life of the world.
Al-A'la

and

Verily, man was created very impatient.
Al-Ma'arij

But in the same surah Allah describes those who can overcome these shortcomings so I will try to be patient and will expect the reward in Jannah, insha-Allah.
As for the prize, of course you and everyone can share it :) as my prize will be from the Paradise.:wink:

farhopes
06-06-2007, 08:33 PM
:salam2:

Ooooooh so, we arent going to get anything here in this world ???

Sister Allah SWT said in the Quran,

But you prefer the life of the world.
Al-A'la

and

Verily, man was created very impatient.
Al-Ma'arij

But in the same surah Allah describes those who can overcome these shortcomings so I will try to be patient and will expect the reward in Jannah, insha-Allah.


That's good, brother. May Allah reward you.:ma:

farhopes
06-11-2007, 12:07 AM
Only verse I can think of is 79:3 "By those that glide along." Another possibility is 81:16 "The runners which hide." But neither one talks about cleaning or sweeping the sky as far as I know.

I didn't know about Dr. Zaghloul but I found his web page. I didn't however find the specific mention of sky sweeping. Now there's a mention of sky scraping in 81:11 but I don't think that's what you meant.

In the process I found this site which is quite informative,
http://www.miraclesofthequran.com/scientific_index.html


One of your guessing is right, brother. :) That is فَلَا أُقْسِمُ بِالْخُنَّسِ الْجَوَارِ الْكُنَّسِ
81:16 "The runners which hide."

Dr. Zaghloul said that this verse refers to a great discovery of some kind of stars that, as a last phase of their life, their huge mass condenses and concentrates in the centre of those stars causing them to have enormous power of gravitation.

They swim in the space dragging anything they encounter and swallow them.

Dr. Mustafa Mahmood once talked about them calling them " the black holes", they sweep the space from dying stars, huge rocks etc. That's all.

Thanks a lot for the site, I was searching for something like that.

Now we can say that you deserve the prize.
And as I said it is from the paradise. All you have to do is to say" Sobhan Allah, Alhamdulillah, La ilah ela Allah" and each time you say them, you'll have some wonderful bushes saved for you in Janah inshaa Allah.

That's our prophet Ibraham's gift that he had given to our prophet Mohammed when they met high in the 7th sky.

Hope you like my prize:)

farhopes
06-21-2007, 12:45 PM
17. That mountains are wider beneath the earth than they are above it.

(42) And the mountains as pegs?
( سورة النبأ , An-Naba, Chapter #78, Verse #7)

The clue is in the word "pegs"; Dr. Zaghlol Al-Nagar said that the nature of the peg is that two thirds of its height should be extended down under the earth and only one third is shown above the earth. That is exactly the same with the mountains. Only one third of the height of any mountain is shown above the earth and two thirds are extended beneath it.

Scientists could discover that fact about the mountains recently. Look at the miraculous Qur'an and its accuracy in choosing the word " peg". That is a clear evidence that the One who revealed the Qur'an is the One Who created the moutains.
Alhamdu lillah that He shows us His Signs.

farhopes
06-21-2007, 12:58 PM
18. That the best tasting and most nutrious honey comes from mountain bees.



68 And your Lord inspired the bee, saying: "Take you habitations in the mountains and in the trees and in what they erect.
69 "Then, eat of all fruits, and follow the ways of your Lord made easy (for you)." There comes forth from their bellies, a drink of varying colour wherein is healing for men. Verily, in this is indeed a sign for people who think.

farhopes
06-21-2007, 01:22 PM
19. That all creatures mate.


49 And of everything We have created pairs, that you may remember (the Grace of Allah). 50\ 49

farhopes
06-21-2007, 01:28 PM
20. That there are creatures smaller than a spec of dust.

61 Whatever you (O Muhammad SAW) may be doing, and whatever portion you may be reciting from the Quran, - and whatever deed you (mankind) may be doing (good or evil), We are Witness thereof, when you are doing it. And nothing is hidden from your Lord (so much as) the weight of an atom (or small ant) on the earth or in the heaven. Not what is less than that or what is greater than that but is (written) in a Clear Record. 10\61

farhopes
06-21-2007, 05:30 PM
You got them all right, sister, as usual :ma:

About quiz 18, I just read a book by Muhammad Qutb called "They won't come up with anything similar" (La ya'toona bimithlih), in which he highlights the significance of the order the Quran mentions of bee habitat. Mountain then tree then ground. It turns out to be the order of taste and nutrition as well! How could Muhammad, peace be upon him know that then and why didn't anybody before him make the same observation?

Qutb also reminds us of highschool chemistry and how chemical reactions occur only when one element completes the number of surface electrons of another element! That's mating of atoms!! (quiz 19) Not even Isaac Newton knew that.


Yes, I'm a fan of Sayed and Muhammad Qutb. they are genius, specially Sayed. It's enough to read Fi Zelal Al-Qura'n to know that.

zohrah13
07-05-2007, 05:48 AM
I am so happy that I am learning alot here. :)

farhopes
07-10-2007, 07:59 PM
I am so happy that I am learning alot here. :)


Alhamdulillah. Dear sister, you are very welcomed. :SMILY206:

farhopes
07-10-2007, 08:58 PM
1- Scients proved that one of the most important metals on Earth came from outer space and not from the bottom of the Earth. Which metal is it and where do you find this in the Holy Qur'an?

2- Scients today observed that the formation of the universe was from warm mass of gas. Where do you find this in the Qur'an?

3-Scientists have only recently discovered that there are sub-surface waves that cover the deep waters of seas and oceans. Where can you find this in the Qur'an?

4- We all know that parents' genes combine to determine all of the baby's physical characteristics . Where can you find this in the Holy Qur'an?

Mohsin
07-10-2007, 10:47 PM
:salam2:


Let me try,

1. Its IRON

لَقَدۡ أَرۡسَلۡنَا رُسُلَنَا بِٱلۡبَيِّنَـٰتِ وَأَنزَلۡنَا مَعَهُمُ ٱلۡكِتَـٰبَ وَٱلۡمِيزَانَ لِيَقُومَ ٱلنَّاسُ بِٱلۡقِسۡطِۖ وَأَنزَلۡنَا ٱلۡحَدِيدَ فِيهِ بَأۡسٌ۬ شَدِيدٌ۬ وَمَنَـٰفِعُ لِلنَّاسِ وَلِيَعۡلَمَ ٱللَّهُ مَن يَنصُرُهُ ۥ وَرُسُلَهُ ۥ بِٱلۡغَيۡبِۚ إِنَّ ٱللَّهَ قَوِىٌّ عَزِيزٌ۬
 We sent aforetime our messengers with Clear Signs and sent down with them the Book and the Balance (of Right and Wrong), that men may stand forth in justice; and We sent down Iron, in which is (material for) mighty war, as well as many benefits for mankind, that Allah may test who it is that will help unseen, Him and His messengers; for Allah is Full of Strength exalted in Might (And able to enforce His will). (25)

2. I think its these verses from Surah Fussilat

ثُمَّ ٱسۡتَوَىٰٓ إِلَى ٱلسَّمَآءِ وَهِىَ دُخَانٌ۬ فَقَالَ لَهَا وَلِلۡأَرۡضِ ٱئۡتِيَا طَوۡعًا أَوۡ كَرۡهً۬ا قَالَتَآ أَتَيۡنَا طَآٮِٕعِينَ
Moreover, He Comprehended in His design the sky, and it had been (as) smoke: He said to it and to the earth: "Come ye together willingly or unwillingly." They said: "We do come (together), in willing obedience." (11)

3. I am not sure about this one but I think answer is one of these verses,

أَوۡ كَظُلُمَـٰتٍ۬ فِى بَحۡرٍ۬ لُّجِّىٍّ۬ يَغۡشَٮٰهُ مَوۡجٌ۬ مِّن فَوۡقِهِۦ مَوۡجٌ۬ مِّن فَوۡقِهِۦ سَحَابٌ۬ۚ ظُلُمَـٰتُۢ بَعۡضُہَا فَوۡقَ بَعۡضٍ إِذَآ أَخۡرَجَ يَدَهُ ۥ لَمۡ يَكَدۡ يَرَٮٰهَ!ۗ وَمَن لَّمۡ يَجۡعَلِ ٱللَّهُ لَهُ ۥ نُورً۬ا فَمَا لَهُ ۥ مِن نُّورٍ
Or (the Unbelievers' state) is like the depths of darkness in a vast deep ocean overwhelmed with billow topped by billow, topped by (dark) clouds: depths of darkness one above another: if a man stretches out his hand, he can hardly see it! For any to whom Allah giveth not light there is no light! (40)

4. If the above ones are correct then I leave this one for the smart fella (Ayman) ... :SMILY105:

farhopes
07-11-2007, 04:37 PM
Well done, brother, your answers are correct :ma:

Now we are waiting for the last question to be amswered.

Mohsin
07-12-2007, 04:14 PM
:salam2:

Brother Ayman where are you ?

I think you are not visiting this section frequesntly these days. Nevermind I'll PM you if you dont write back.

Mohsin
07-15-2007, 12:08 PM
:salam2:

Well I talked to brother Ayman and we both are not sure about the exact verses. Brother Ayman said with some exceptions, that it might be the verses of surat-ut-Tariq

He is created from a drop emitted― (6) Proceeding from between the backbone and the ribs: (7)

I can add these verses from surat-ul-Insaan

Verily We created Man from a drop of mingled sperm, in order to try him: so We gave him (the gifts), of Hearing and Sight. (2)

We are waiting for the correct answer !

hussain.mahammed
07-15-2007, 02:42 PM
I am dumbstruck. You all are making me speechless. Allahu Akbar..Subhan Allah
From where do you the questions? or you make them yourselves?
Brilliant genius minds at work.
May Allah Subhanahu wa Taala give us HIKMAH and guide us always.
wa/salam

Mohsin
07-15-2007, 05:53 PM
:salam2:

You know what? Something here is reminding of the announcement I hear a lot at the Railway Station.


Attention please, Sister Amani wherever you are, please visit this thread soon and certify or give us the correct answer.

farhopes
07-15-2007, 06:02 PM
Assalamo alikom :) )

مِن نُّطْفَةٍ خَلَقَهُ فَقَدَّرَهُ
( سورة عبس , Abasa, Chapter #80, Verse #19)

From what thing did He create him? From a drop of sperm He created him and proportioned him. Then He eases the way for him. (Qur'an, 80:18-20)

The word "qaddarahu," translated as "proportioned" in the above verse, comes from the Arabic verb "qadare." It translates as "arranging, setting out, planning, programming, seeing the future, the writing of everything in destiny (by Allah)."

When the father's sperm cell fertilises the mother's egg, the parents' genes combine to determine all of the baby's physical characteristics. Each one of these thousands of genes has a specific function. It is the genes which determine the colour of the eyes and hair, height, facial features, skeletal shape and the countless details in the internal organs, brain, nerves and muscles.

This is the link you can refer to, brother Hussain:

http://www.miraclesofthequran.com/scientific_60.html

Mohsin
07-15-2007, 06:08 PM
:wasalam:

Thanx for the answer, it was a long wait.
Really its amazing how much there is to learn from the Quran. I am trying to learn Arabic since no translation could ever give us the understanding that the original Arabic text will.

Mohsin
07-17-2007, 08:29 AM
:salam2:

Dear brother Ayman, this is to say sorry :o for I said something on your behalf which wasnt your intention and I want to apologise for the same.
Forgive me brother !


I'd rather you didn't because I don't think it's the right answer.

hussain.mahammed
07-23-2007, 07:26 AM
As salamu alaikum wa rahmatullahi wabrakatuhu brothers and sisters,
I hope we can get the next set of questions now. I am hungry for more :lol: